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This is Self-Directed Research.

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Our hosts, James and Amos, host weekly

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hyper-focused technical deep dives.

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In this episode, Amos gives us a tour of

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their entire recording setup with

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"All you need is three iPhones."

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Make sure to like, follow, and subscribe

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wherever you find us and visit

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show notes, and transcripts.

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And as usual, stay tuned to the end to

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hear more about Depot, the

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sponsor of this episode.

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<v Amos Wenger>I'm hoping to finally

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fucking do a short one.

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I'm apologetic in advance.

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I know people who use content blockers to

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prevent them from visiting certain

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websites, like social media or whatever.

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I'm the owner of my

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computer, that does not work on me.

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I know how to disable it.

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I need to grow a spine

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or a will, I don't know.

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<v James Munns>I sent a link to what my homepage is and

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yeah, I can tell you

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that doesn't work for me.

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<v Amos Wenger>Exactly, all the "get back

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to work" things don't work.

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>Oh yeah, that one.

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<v James Munns>So James, what do I have for you today?

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What do you have for me?

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>You have to explain the original title of

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this because now it

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doesn't quite make sense.

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<v Amos Wenger>No, I do not.

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The original title for this episode was

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"Shooting Yourself: but not in the foot."

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Oh yeah, the title is still here.

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>That's what I mean.

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This doesn't make

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sense but it did before.

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<v Amos Wenger>No, I think it's great.

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I think we should leave in with no

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explanations whatsoever.

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"All you need is three

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iPhones: but not in the foot."

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<v James Munns>I thought it was like

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that, just give it 50 amps.

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You certainly will not

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regret giving it 50 amps.

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Exactly.

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All at once, no circuit breaker.

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<v Amos Wenger>Exactly, I think even just

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one iPhone in the foot is probably too

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much, if I'm being honest.

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>Anyways, I'm leaving now, bye.

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<v Amos Wenger>Bye Amanda.

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So James, I don't know if you recall, I

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don't know if you were conscious when you

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said that, but you said you would be

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interested in walking through my shooting

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setup, my studio, home studio, camera

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setup for my videos.

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Does that ring a bell?

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<v James Munns>I'm intrigued about

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how you do everything.

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I think I was asking about your editing

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workflow, which I saw some shorts on,

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which looks super cool.

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But I would also love to

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know how you do filming as well.

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<v Amos Wenger>Well, okay, yeah, because if you don't

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remember, if you're not interested, then

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I just spent three hours

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making slides for naught.

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So I hope you're

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actually interested in this.

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>I am interested.

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<v Amos Wenger>Thank you, Amanda.

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>There we go.

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<v Amos Wenger>Thank you for your support and for

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talking me out of the

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original title for this presentation.

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This presentation is now named "All You

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Need is Three

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iPhones, but not in the foot."

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I started doing videos as a bit in 2019

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because someone said, "Wouldn't it be- can

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you imagine Amos being a YouTuber?" and I

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was like, "Ha ha, yeah... can you?"

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And then I made "The

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thing inside the thing."

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I don't know if you saw that one.

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<v James Munns>Is there a name for the process of doing

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something ironically and then it becomes

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just like an endemic part of yourself?

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Because I feel like everyone who does

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things like say 'bro' ironically, it just

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becomes who they are.

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<v Amos Wenger>I don't love the comparison there, James.

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I'm not going to lie.

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But yeah, I see what you mean.

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Bro, please.

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My first video that I made seriously on

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YouTube other than like-- because, okay,

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because I had my gamedev phase where I

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was like, look at my game prototype that

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nobody's going to download or buy.

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Some people bought games that I made.

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I owe them money because I was like,

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"Yeah, yeah, there's going to be updates."

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There never were updates.

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There was a Christmas update.

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It's pretty bad.

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If you bought Lestac, just hit me up.

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I'll refund the seven dollars.

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I know it's been eight years.

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That's okay.

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So I made a first video called "The Thing

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Inside the Thing" because I really like

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the idea of when you boot up a computer,

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it shows something on the screen, even

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though it's not booted

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into an operating system yet, right.

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It always broke my brain that on Windows

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you have to install drivers for Nvidia,

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but it can already show some things even

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before you install the drivers and even

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before Windows boot up.

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So there's already a

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computer inside your computer.

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So that was very fun.

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And I was shooting that with webcams

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because I had a Logitech C920, which you

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can see on the slides.

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If you go to sdr-podcast/

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episodes, you can get that.

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<v James Munns>You can't see me, but that

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is, I believe, the exact camera.

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I think I might have a different revision

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because mine doesn't look exactly like

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<v Amos Wenger>You have the C922, but...

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Very common cameras.

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Logitech is headquartered in Lausanne, I

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think, next to where I studied at EPFL.

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sometimes good and sometimes not.

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My naive line of thought was it's 1080p,

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It was not good.

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It is decent for video calls,

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but it's not really suited for YouTube.

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<v James Munns>Given enough lighting and

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given enough constraint.

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<v Amos Wenger>I discovered so late that you need light.

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Anyway, at some point

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I was like, oh, I'm going to get a

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Logitech Brio, which this one does 4K

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30fps, but it still has

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this tiny, tiny little lens.

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in wrong, it'll silently downgrade the

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quality to some heavily compressed stuff.

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which is what I don't know everybody

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streaming on Twitch does.

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like the green logo thingy where they

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their own marketplace.

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It's just all forks of OBS and OBS itself

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is I hear a pretty dirty code base when

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it comes to audio and stuff.

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They recently had an article that was

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like, "Oh, whoops, for those two codecs,

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there has been a hundred

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millisecond delay for 15 years.

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We just never found out about it."

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And it's fun.

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It's a project that needs more

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contributors that know

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actually what they're doing.

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No shade.

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It's a very useful tool.

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It's foundational.

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<v James Munns>I would say I use OBS.

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or Twitch has been through OBS.

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<v Amos Wenger>So I stopped using OBS when

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<v James Munns>This is going to be a series of things

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where you say, "This is what

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I used to do and it's bad."

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And I go, "That's cool.

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That's what I used to do."

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<v Amos Wenger>But you still do.

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Yeah, I know.

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No, no, no.

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OBS is great.

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I just got tired of setting up--

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It's bad for me to capture just a little

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bit of one interaction

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when I show like this button.

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You drag that over here.

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CleanShot is so good at that because

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it's good for

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screenshots, but also for screencast.

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So you just drag around the

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area you want to record, it--

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This is not an ad for

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CleanShot, but God damn it.

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They should sponsor me!

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I already emailed them

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like, "Let me pick the codec."

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<v James Munns>Are CleanShot and Cleanfeed related

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in any way, or do you just have an affinity

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for tools that start with 'clean'?

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<v Amos Wenger>I do.

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I-- it's a complete coincidence.

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Cleanfeed is done by audio nerds and

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CleanShot is done by, I don't know, one

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of the many people who-- we've talked about

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before, have that product sensibility

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because they use macOS and just like

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neatly packaged things.

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Just like making you pay 15 bucks a month

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for some open source code.

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That's what the Mac apps are.

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So I was using OBS and after that I

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discovered, hey, people use real cameras.

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Let's buy a real camera.

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I already had a Canon something, but it

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didn't have clean HDMI out.

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Why do things have two brand

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names and three model names?

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I don't know.

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Welcome to AV and a

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capture card that goes with it.

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There's a bunch of cheap

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HDMI to USB little USB dongles.

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You can find those on AliExpress for, I

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don't know, 10 bucks.

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Most of them are completely crap.

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They only do 1080p something and they're

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going to drop out and the

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call is going to be terrible.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah.

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That thing on the screen

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is on the opposite end.

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It's probably too expensive for it.

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I didn't need that.

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Nobody needed that.

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I just got obsessed

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with the idea of 4K 60 FPS.

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I made a whole video about it.

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It got 12 views and then I don't know.

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I moved on.

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<v James Munns>So wait, what this on the screen that you're

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talking about is a PCI express card.

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I'm guessing that's an Elgato 4K

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<v Amos Wenger>60 Pro MK.2 and you

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cannot use it with OBS.

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Well, you can, but if you use it with OBS

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you're limited resolution and frame rate,

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you have to use the Elgato 4K Capture

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Utility, which I hate with a passion

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because it sometimes silently fails.

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I have somewhere a list of all the

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reasons why I lost footage

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and ummm...

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It's definitely on that list.

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By the way, the screenshot I found

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randomly on the Internet of that tool is

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a bunch of memory corruption.

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<v James Munns>Yeah, just terrible visual artifacts.

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Like you said that you kept a list and

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all I'm thinking is like Game of Thrones,

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like Arya Stark, like listing the people

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that have caused her pain.

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And that's you with like

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dropped frames and lost shots.

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<v Amos Wenger>Yeah, but it's not people.

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It's just like forgot to turn on the--

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because like when you record sound and

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image separately, you're bound to forget

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to turn on one of them.

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I don't know.

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There's always something.

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Moving on to mics.

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What did I use?

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I never used the mic from the webcam

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because it was always in a room that's

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untreated and has rough, well, not rough,

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but like solid walls.

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There's a lot of refractions.

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So just going to talk about

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a bunch of mics for a bit.

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And the first thing you need to know

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about mics is they have polar patterns,

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which define which direction they're

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capturing sound from.

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And all the mics we're going to see

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today, well, most of the mics we're going

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to see today have a

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cardioid polar pattern.

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And for those of you who are not looking

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at the slide right now,

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how can we describe that?

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They mostly pick up sound from the front

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and try to reject sound from the back.

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<v James Munns>It's an upside down figure eight where

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the bottom of the eight is, or in this

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case, the top of the

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eight is much bigger.

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<v Amos Wenger>I see a butt, but...

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<v James Munns>Yeah, it's fair. It's a very lumpy butt.

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Well, no, I guess the cardioid pattern.

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Yeah, it's a butt.

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I was looking at the super

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cardioid and the hyper cardioid.

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<v Amos Wenger>Yeah, the first mic I used is a mic I

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bought to record music.

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It's the RØDE NT1-A.

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Do NOT buy this mic.

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First of all, because

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that's not what it is anymore.

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But second of all, because they released

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the RØDE NT1 without the A.

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I don't know how it works at RØDE.

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Fun fact, you don't say Röde.

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I just watched a short by some French

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guy, the Audiofanzine channel, and they

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say the founder of RØDE.

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Like because RØDE is like

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Rode with the O stricken.

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So you think it's from some Nordic

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language or whatever.

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No, you say it 'Röde' instead of Rode--

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They just did the slash

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for stylistic reasons.

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<v James Munns>This isn't like when we put cool umlauts

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on every vowel just for comedic effect.

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<v Amos Wenger>No, it's not an umlaut, it's the thing.

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If it was, then yeah, it would be a Röde!

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But it's just a slash and it's not even

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from Sweden or whatever.

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>You know where they are from?

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This was a question on a pub quiz from

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last week and I got it correct.

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<v Amos Wenger>I just looked it up earlier today.

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They're from Australia?

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New Zealand, I think.

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Pff same...

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>Same!?

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Oh, God.

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<v James Munns>Oh, you just upset like four people who

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are very far away from us.

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<v Amos Wenger>I have seven more

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letters to write by hand.

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I'm so sorry.

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>Anyway, it's fun fact from me.

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You're welcome.

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<v Amos Wenger>Beautiful fact, beautiful factory.

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Beautiful

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landscapes, things trying to kill you.

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I don't know.

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Same thing.

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So don't buy the RØDE NT1-A because they

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came out with the RØDE NT1, which has a

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built-in USB audio

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interface and a floating point.

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Yeah, 32-bit floating point support.

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And it's just nicer.

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Anyway, this is a studio condenser mic.

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It has a cardioid polar pattern.

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And the acoustic

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principle is pressure gradient.

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James, do you want to see a nice little

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diagram of how that works?

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<v James Munns>I would love to see a nice

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little diagram of how that works.

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Oh, wow.

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<v Amos Wenger>Here we go.

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Can you describe it for me, please?

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<v James Munns>I see some greens that are coming in.

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They're hitting a

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membrane and what looks like a...

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It says bias, I guess that...

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Well, it looks like either a cell or a

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capacitor pattern going into an

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operational amplifier.

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That is just marked

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gain and signal processing.

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<v Amos Wenger>I know some of those words.

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<v James Munns>So yeah, it looks like sound comes in,

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crushes the box, and then there's a

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little equalization

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vent that takes it out.

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<v Amos Wenger>Okay, so there is a membrane.

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It's the important part, I think.

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And when sound indeed comes in, it makes

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the membrane vibrate.

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And that membrane is charged with an

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electrical voltage, which

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means you need phantom power.

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So I'm going to go to the

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next slide for a little bit.

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You know that 48 volts little button that

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you have on the Scarlett

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Solo that I made you buy?

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Yep.

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<v James Munns>And I had to look up whether I needed it

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for my mic, and my mic does not need it.

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<v Amos Wenger>And do you?

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<v James Munns>No, I do not.

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<v Amos Wenger>Because your mic is not a condenser mic.

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Your mic is a dynamic mic.

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<v James Munns>Yes.

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<v Amos Wenger>Like the SM7B and you

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have an SM57, I think?

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<v James Munns>It's the... whatever the round one...

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I always get the 58 and the 57 confused,

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but it's the round one, not the flat one.

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<v Amos Wenger>I don't know.

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<v James Munns>It's the one for singing,

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not for miking up drums.

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<v Amos Wenger>I see.

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I have an SM7B.

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They have... It's just more expensive than the one you

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have, but for no good reason, because you

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can EQ your way from one to the other,

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which I learned too late.

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I spent useless money.

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Oh, this whole presentation is like, I

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regret spending money on things, but at

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least I learned a lesson.

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Anyway, I started with the

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NT1-A, which is a condenser mic.

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The problem with condenser mics is that

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they tend to capture a lot of room tone,

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like a lot of ambient noise, which is

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great if you are in a

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studio that sounds great.

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Like, you're on a soundstage or whatever.

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The space you're in is designed to

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perform music, and then

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you bring one of those in.

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It's going to capture

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exactly what you hear.

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But if you're like me in a very large,

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weird-ass living room slash kitchen slash

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TV room, whatever, it's very bad and you

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want something a lot more focused, like

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the RØDE PodMic, which is completely

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acceptable to start with.

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I think I would recommend it.

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It's under a 100.

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Or the SM7B, which is what you see

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everywhere on every podcast, and it's too

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expensive for what it is.

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But I just got tired of

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messing around with sound.

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I was like, I'll just

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get what everyone has.

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You do need the rest of the things that

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go with it, like an

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external audio interface.

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Sometimes you need a FetHead or a Cloudlifter

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to add some gain.

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I used to use them, but actually the

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Scarlett Solo, if you just max out

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the gain, it's actually okay.

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It's just...

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They have the exact same pattern, but

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both the SM7B and the RØDE PodMic are

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designed to try to only

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let in sound from the front.

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There's physical designs inside of them

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and the principle that does it so that

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it's more focused on

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what's close to it directly.

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<v James Munns>What's really fun is

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these gain pattern diagrams.

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The only other place that I've seen them

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is for radio stuff,

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including Wi-Fi access points.

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If you go to the Ubiquiti website and go

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and look at any of their Wi-Fi access

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points, they'll have emission pattern

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diagrams like this that show you what

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direction they have the

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strongest radio signal in.

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You can figure out whether you should

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mount it flat on the wall or on the

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ceiling, depending on

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where you are oriented to them.

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Because they're exactly that.

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They're the gain either on transmission

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or reception of some energy source,

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whether that's a pressure wave for sound

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or a radio wave for

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Wi-Fi or any of these.

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You'll see these polar emission pattern

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diagrams in a bunch of different places.

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<v Amos Wenger>Yes, it's waved all the way down.

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I also have a nice little diagram for

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those dynamic microphones.

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The way they work is you also have what

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is also called a diaphragm.

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No, it's not a membrane this time.

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It's a diaphragm that

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is attached to a coil.

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When the diaphragm vibrates in response

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to sound, it makes the coil move around

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the magnetic core and that generates

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electromagnetic flux.

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Which then is, yeah, then you have signal

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as voltage, I would imagine.

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I know so little about these things.

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I started learning about them.

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I got bad grades.

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I moved to computer science and I haven't

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gotten back to it yet.

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<v James Munns>Hell yeah.

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<v Amos Wenger>I just did a deep dive on sound itself,

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but not this part of sound.

535
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I thought it might be a fun project to

536
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make your own mic,

537
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like your own shitty mic.

538
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That'd be very fun.

539
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I have no idea what it takes though, but

540
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apparently not much looking at this.

541
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<v James Munns>So I like that the title of this was "You

542
00:15:30.750 --> 00:15:31.666
Need Three iPhones."

543
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<v Amos Wenger>We're on slide 12.

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<v James Munns>And now we've gotten into the physical

545
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theory of microphones.

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<v Amos Wenger>We haven't, yeah.

547
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<v James Munns>And we're about to look at lights.

548
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<v Amos Wenger>And a professional mic and some lights.

549
00:15:41.166 --> 00:15:42.625
Yeah, yeah, let's talk about lights.

550
00:15:42.708 --> 00:15:44.875
So those mics, okay, so this light is

551
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there to explain that I was doing

552
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everything from my desk.

553
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Because at first I used a webcam.

554
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The webcam sits atop the display.

555
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And then you just kind of add the mic on

556
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the side with a mechanical arm like the

557
00:15:56.291 --> 00:15:58.125
RØDE PSA1, which is the thing everyone

558
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has, or the PSA1+, which is the same with

559
00:16:00.250 --> 00:16:01.041
a little sleeve that

560
00:16:01.041 --> 00:16:02.583
hides the metal arms.

561
00:16:03.208 --> 00:16:04.708
And then if you're an idiot like me, you

562
00:16:04.708 --> 00:16:06.041
realize, "Oh, I need light!"

563
00:16:06.291 --> 00:16:07.958
The thing that goes in the camera that

564
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produces the image is light.

565
00:16:09.583 --> 00:16:10.291
I need light.

566
00:16:10.666 --> 00:16:13.208
And the shitty IKEA light bulb I have at

567
00:16:13.208 --> 00:16:15.291
the ceiling is not really enough.

568
00:16:15.541 --> 00:16:18.041
So you get a set of softboxes.

569
00:16:18.333 --> 00:16:20.083
If you're an idiot like me, you get some

570
00:16:20.083 --> 00:16:24.166
LED ones that do RGB, but also have this

571
00:16:24.166 --> 00:16:26.083
little very annoying cooling system.

572
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So you get the "Eeee!"

573
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The background of all your recordings.

574
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And then you get one like the one I

575
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showed on the slide, an Interfit F5.

576
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Don't buy it because

577
00:16:36.916 --> 00:16:38.041
you can't buy it anymore.

578
00:16:38.041 --> 00:16:39.083
They stop making it.

579
00:16:39.083 --> 00:16:40.083
I don't know why.

580
00:16:40.250 --> 00:16:42.583
It's just five CFL bulbs in

581
00:16:42.583 --> 00:16:44.000
a trench coat-- in a softbox.

582
00:16:44.458 --> 00:16:47.083
And softboxes are just really black

583
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fabric with something reflective inside.

584
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And then in the direction in which you

585
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want the light, you have two different

586
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layers of white fabric.

587
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So it really diffuses the light a lot.

588
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You don't get any sharp edges.

589
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You get a soft light.

590
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<v James Munns>For everyone I've talked to who does

591
00:17:00.375 --> 00:17:02.208
video, they say that lighting is...

592
00:17:02.625 --> 00:17:04.666
A lot of people focus on cameras and

593
00:17:04.666 --> 00:17:05.208
other things like

594
00:17:05.208 --> 00:17:06.291
that when they start off.

595
00:17:06.291 --> 00:17:07.416
And that lighting is like...

596
00:17:07.416 --> 00:17:08.833
When you're learning how to cook, it's

597
00:17:08.833 --> 00:17:10.291
like adding the right amount of salt.

598
00:17:10.666 --> 00:17:12.541
Like everything else: your chopping

599
00:17:12.541 --> 00:17:14.708
technique, how you cut things all come

600
00:17:14.708 --> 00:17:16.208
second to just figuring

601
00:17:16.208 --> 00:17:17.333
out the right amount of salt.

602
00:17:17.541 --> 00:17:19.250
And that video is all figuring out the

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right amount of light for your setup.

604
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<v Amos Wenger>As you can imagine, having two...

605
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Those are actually pretty big.

606
00:17:24.333 --> 00:17:25.791
Those are like as big as me.

607
00:17:25.791 --> 00:17:27.666
They're like over two meters.

608
00:17:27.708 --> 00:17:29.583
Having those set up around your desk

609
00:17:29.583 --> 00:17:30.875
means that your desk is taking

610
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the space of like four desks.

611
00:17:32.958 --> 00:17:34.041
Because you need to now pull

612
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your desk away from the wall.

613
00:17:35.458 --> 00:17:37.250
Because you need space behind the desk to

614
00:17:37.250 --> 00:17:39.083
put those at a distance so that they

615
00:17:39.083 --> 00:17:40.041
light you up correctly.

616
00:17:40.250 --> 00:17:41.791
So what I used to do is I used to set

617
00:17:41.791 --> 00:17:43.750
everything up and tear everything down.

618
00:17:43.750 --> 00:17:45.041
And it took a lot of time.

619
00:17:45.333 --> 00:17:47.166
And you get some hacks like this slide

620
00:17:47.166 --> 00:17:48.291
shows a collapsible

621
00:17:48.291 --> 00:17:49.375
green screen from Elgato.

622
00:17:49.375 --> 00:17:50.083
I actually like this one.

623
00:17:50.125 --> 00:17:51.708
The only problem with that one is that

624
00:17:51.708 --> 00:17:52.916
it's too small, but

625
00:17:52.916 --> 00:17:53.916
they have an XL version.

626
00:17:54.541 --> 00:17:55.000
Which I didn't know

627
00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.000
existed when I bought this one.

628
00:17:56.541 --> 00:17:58.625
And also shown on this slide are some

629
00:17:58.625 --> 00:18:01.041
Elgato key lights, which are much smaller

630
00:18:01.041 --> 00:18:03.291
than the soft boxes I saw earlier.

631
00:18:03.916 --> 00:18:06.708
And obviously not as soft, but for...

632
00:18:07.250 --> 00:18:08.583
I don't know, for a webcam if you have

633
00:18:08.583 --> 00:18:09.375
one or two of these,

634
00:18:09.375 --> 00:18:10.125
you're in a good place.

635
00:18:10.750 --> 00:18:14.208
So after a lot of times of just shooting

636
00:18:14.208 --> 00:18:16.958
in my living room around my desk, having

637
00:18:16.958 --> 00:18:18.916
to deal with getting rid of the fridge

638
00:18:18.916 --> 00:18:20.708
sound or the cats fighting or whatever.

639
00:18:21.041 --> 00:18:23.333
I decided I would just use my guest

640
00:18:23.333 --> 00:18:26.333
bedroom to set up an actual studio.

641
00:18:26.708 --> 00:18:29.333
So that I can shoot, stop doing something

642
00:18:29.333 --> 00:18:31.541
else, come back days later.

643
00:18:31.541 --> 00:18:32.708
And it's exactly the same setup, it's

644
00:18:32.708 --> 00:18:33.708
exactly the same lighting and everything.

645
00:18:34.041 --> 00:18:35.250
It's kind of treated for

646
00:18:35.250 --> 00:18:36.500
sound a little bit, not really.

647
00:18:36.958 --> 00:18:38.625
And so this is what I came up with.

648
00:18:38.916 --> 00:18:40.291
Question one, what do I look at?

649
00:18:40.291 --> 00:18:40.833
When you're on a

650
00:18:40.833 --> 00:18:41.791
desk, you have a computer.

651
00:18:42.041 --> 00:18:43.083
So you can look at the computer screen.

652
00:18:43.125 --> 00:18:45.083
It's not great to do that.

653
00:18:45.458 --> 00:18:47.416
If you look at my first videos, you can

654
00:18:47.416 --> 00:18:48.416
see that I'm looking at the computer

655
00:18:48.416 --> 00:18:49.875
screen and the camera is up here.

656
00:18:50.291 --> 00:18:51.000
So you can see that I'm

657
00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:51.833
not looking at the camera.

658
00:18:51.833 --> 00:18:54.041
<v James Munns>You're always looking like 10 degrees

659
00:18:54.041 --> 00:18:55.208
down from where you

660
00:18:55.208 --> 00:18:56.416
really want to be looking.

661
00:18:57.208 --> 00:18:59.333
<v Amos Wenger>So the fix for that is the teleprompter,

662
00:18:59.333 --> 00:19:00.708
which is really just a

663
00:19:00.708 --> 00:19:02.291
pane of glass, 45 degrees.

664
00:19:02.583 --> 00:19:05.833
And then you can read what's on a little

665
00:19:05.833 --> 00:19:08.333
tablet or phone, which lays

666
00:19:08.333 --> 00:19:10.083
horizontally on a little holder.

667
00:19:10.125 --> 00:19:12.125
And then you have the

668
00:19:12.125 --> 00:19:13.416
45 degree pane of glass.

669
00:19:13.416 --> 00:19:14.875
And then behind the pane of glass, you're

670
00:19:14.875 --> 00:19:16.625
looking into the camera

671
00:19:16.625 --> 00:19:17.666
that's looking back at you.

672
00:19:17.916 --> 00:19:18.583
And that's the first

673
00:19:18.583 --> 00:19:19.666
teleprompter I bought.

674
00:19:19.916 --> 00:19:23.541
It's a Glide Gear TMP 100 or TMP 50.

675
00:19:23.541 --> 00:19:24.375
I forget which one.

676
00:19:24.625 --> 00:19:25.291
And I bought a cheap

677
00:19:25.291 --> 00:19:26.625
Android tablet just for that.

678
00:19:26.625 --> 00:19:29.375
You can do like $100 bucks, just so it's

679
00:19:29.375 --> 00:19:30.333
big enough to serve it.

680
00:19:30.333 --> 00:19:31.750
But you don't need the fancy screen, it's

681
00:19:31.750 --> 00:19:34.041
just scrolling white on black text.

682
00:19:34.375 --> 00:19:35.958
And I got one of those little remote

683
00:19:35.958 --> 00:19:37.083
pads, which act as a Bluetooth controller.

684
00:19:37.125 --> 00:19:39.125
So I can hold something in my hand and

685
00:19:39.125 --> 00:19:41.125
like scroll the script and it comes with

686
00:19:41.125 --> 00:19:42.583
its own shitty little app.

687
00:19:42.583 --> 00:19:44.458
It's not very good, but it did the job.

688
00:19:44.875 --> 00:19:47.625
What I actually use today, I gave up on

689
00:19:47.625 --> 00:19:49.375
the little Android tablet that's sitting

690
00:19:49.375 --> 00:19:50.083
in a drawer somewhere.

691
00:19:50.291 --> 00:19:52.958
I just use an iPhone XR, which I'll have

692
00:19:52.958 --> 00:19:54.291
a list of prices

693
00:19:54.291 --> 00:19:56.041
later on in my last slide.

694
00:19:56.041 --> 00:19:57.166
But it's not that expensive.

695
00:19:57.375 --> 00:19:58.541
And I have the little,

696
00:19:58.541 --> 00:19:59.458
what are they called?

697
00:19:59.583 --> 00:20:01.958
Bluetooth pedal page turner thingies that

698
00:20:01.958 --> 00:20:04.333
professional musicians use to turn pages

699
00:20:04.333 --> 00:20:05.208
because they have both

700
00:20:05.250 --> 00:20:06.125
hands on their instruments.

701
00:20:06.291 --> 00:20:07.500
<v James Munns>And this is our first iPhone.

702
00:20:07.500 --> 00:20:09.791
So we've now reached the first of three.

703
00:20:09.791 --> 00:20:11.750
So this is the ones that are in cahoots.

704
00:20:11.750 --> 00:20:12.625
This is the first one.

705
00:20:12.625 --> 00:20:14.541
This is the one that is showing us text

706
00:20:14.541 --> 00:20:17.583
and listening to a Bluetooth page turner

707
00:20:17.583 --> 00:20:19.625
and sitting behind the teleprompter.

708
00:20:19.958 --> 00:20:22.666
<v Amos Wenger>Yes, not behind. It's...

709
00:20:22.666 --> 00:20:24.250
<v James Munns>... underneath, I guess. Yeah.

710
00:20:24.291 --> 00:20:25.208
<v Amos Wenger>I see it.

711
00:20:25.250 --> 00:20:27.000
I'll show you a shot.

712
00:20:27.041 --> 00:20:28.750
Also importantly, I've given up on

713
00:20:28.750 --> 00:20:31.333
teleprompter apps because essentially

714
00:20:31.333 --> 00:20:33.375
what they do is they just mirror text the

715
00:20:33.375 --> 00:20:34.083
right way so that when you look at it in

716
00:20:34.083 --> 00:20:35.333
the mirror, it looks

717
00:20:35.333 --> 00:20:36.458
the right way around.

718
00:20:36.750 --> 00:20:38.333
But you can do that with CSS.

719
00:20:38.375 --> 00:20:40.208
And I really like writing content in my

720
00:20:40.208 --> 00:20:41.250
blog, as you've noticed.

721
00:20:41.291 --> 00:20:42.333
So I just use my blog.

722
00:20:42.875 --> 00:20:44.666
Here's a little Easter egg.

723
00:20:44.666 --> 00:20:46.666
If you go on my website, any article, and

724
00:20:46.666 --> 00:20:49.291
you tap the 'estimated reading time' five

725
00:20:49.291 --> 00:20:50.916
times, it's going to switch to

726
00:20:50.916 --> 00:20:52.708
presentation mode, which forces dark

727
00:20:52.708 --> 00:20:53.875
mode, does the mirroring

728
00:20:53.875 --> 00:20:56.000
thing, makes fonts larger.

729
00:20:56.041 --> 00:20:57.708
Amanda and James are both trying it out.

730
00:20:57.708 --> 00:20:59.291
<v James Munns>Yeah, I'm sitting quietly because I'm now,

731
00:20:59.291 --> 00:21:01.083
I'm now-- I have to go test this out.

732
00:21:01.125 --> 00:21:02.208
Okay, so hold on.

733
00:21:02.208 --> 00:21:03.500
Let's go to the most recent article.

734
00:21:04.875 --> 00:21:05.791
And then what is it?

735
00:21:05.875 --> 00:21:07.750
The reading time 12345.

736
00:21:08.166 --> 00:21:08.708
Oh, wow.

737
00:21:08.750 --> 00:21:09.208
Look at that!

738
00:21:09.250 --> 00:21:11.000
Although mine's not black and white.

739
00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:12.625
It is reverse though, but I

740
00:21:12.625 --> 00:21:14.416
still get full color reverse.

741
00:21:14.875 --> 00:21:16.208
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah, no, no, it's not black and white.

742
00:21:16.208 --> 00:21:17.375
It's forcing dark mode.

743
00:21:18.541 --> 00:21:19.791
<v James Munns>I guess I'm always in dark mode.

744
00:21:20.166 --> 00:21:21.375
<v Amanda Majorowicz>I'm also always in dark mode.

745
00:21:21.750 --> 00:21:22.833
This is crazy.

746
00:21:22.916 --> 00:21:24.000
Wait, how do we undo it now?

747
00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:25.000
<v James Munns>Although pressing it five

748
00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:26.291
times does not bring it back.

749
00:21:26.666 --> 00:21:28.375
<v Amos Wenger>No, no, no, you have to reload the page.

750
00:21:28.916 --> 00:21:30.041
<v Amanda Majorowicz>Oh, okay. Thank you!

751
00:21:30.125 --> 00:21:31.625
<v Amos Wenger>So this slide now shows

752
00:21:31.625 --> 00:21:32.916
what I'm actually looking at.

753
00:21:33.541 --> 00:21:35.583
You can see it is this little tablet.

754
00:21:35.791 --> 00:21:36.833
I don't know, a

755
00:21:36.833 --> 00:21:38.000
little drawer or whatever.

756
00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:38.958
And it's just sitting on top.

757
00:21:39.166 --> 00:21:41.208
When I look straight at the camera, it is

758
00:21:41.208 --> 00:21:43.166
right side up or like whatever.

759
00:21:43.166 --> 00:21:43.541
It's flipped.

760
00:21:43.791 --> 00:21:44.833
It's readable.

761
00:21:44.916 --> 00:21:46.708
And yeah, and the pedal doesn't actually

762
00:21:46.708 --> 00:21:48.875
go next page, previous page.

763
00:21:48.875 --> 00:21:49.791
It just gently scrolls.

764
00:21:50.291 --> 00:21:53.708
So I'm usually standing with my big toes

765
00:21:53.708 --> 00:21:55.875
standing on either pedal so I can just

766
00:21:55.875 --> 00:21:57.041
move them a little bit.

767
00:21:57.125 --> 00:21:58.583
And when I have shoots of like an hour,

768
00:21:58.583 --> 00:22:00.250
two hours, it's just really bad.

769
00:22:00.250 --> 00:22:00.958
Your big toe is supposed to

770
00:22:00.958 --> 00:22:01.916
be in contact with the floor.

771
00:22:02.125 --> 00:22:02.916
<v James Munns>Say how's your ankle?

772
00:22:03.416 --> 00:22:04.708
Like how's your ankles doing?

773
00:22:04.833 --> 00:22:05.250
<v Amos Wenger>Really bad!

774
00:22:05.291 --> 00:22:07.000
<v James Munns>Yeah, your shins probably burn.

775
00:22:07.208 --> 00:22:07.791
You're going to have like

776
00:22:07.791 --> 00:22:10.416
very defined shins after that.

777
00:22:10.416 --> 00:22:11.416
<v Amos Wenger>I have to take breaks.

778
00:22:11.416 --> 00:22:12.375
I have to stretch.

779
00:22:12.375 --> 00:22:13.375
It's terrible.

780
00:22:14.291 --> 00:22:15.416
Okay, next up, how I'm mic'd.

781
00:22:15.666 --> 00:22:16.791
This one's a fun one.

782
00:22:17.041 --> 00:22:18.541
I went crazy over the years

783
00:22:18.541 --> 00:22:19.541
trying to get something to work.

784
00:22:19.791 --> 00:22:21.625
So there are shotgun mics that are

785
00:22:21.625 --> 00:22:23.083
designed to go directly on your camera.

786
00:22:23.125 --> 00:22:24.791
So when I use the camera,

787
00:22:25.125 --> 00:22:26.500
I bought a RØDE VideoMic.

788
00:22:26.791 --> 00:22:27.916
It didn't work for me.

789
00:22:27.916 --> 00:22:29.375
<v James Munns>So, Amos, what is a shotgun mic and how

790
00:22:29.375 --> 00:22:30.208
is it different than the

791
00:22:30.208 --> 00:22:31.375
other mics that we talked about?

792
00:22:31.458 --> 00:22:33.083
<v Amos Wenger>We'll see the pick up pattern later.

793
00:22:33.166 --> 00:22:34.625
Well, it also tries to pick up something

794
00:22:34.625 --> 00:22:35.666
from the front and

795
00:22:35.666 --> 00:22:36.875
tries to reject the sides.

796
00:22:37.125 --> 00:22:38.833
But it's really designed so you can aim

797
00:22:38.833 --> 00:22:40.416
somewhere far enough

798
00:22:40.416 --> 00:22:42.125
and like get that sound.

799
00:22:42.416 --> 00:22:43.958
<v James Munns>It's the sniper rifle of mics.

800
00:22:43.958 --> 00:22:44.333
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah.

801
00:22:44.333 --> 00:22:46.250
In some movies, you can

802
00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:47.958
actually see them using a sniper.

803
00:22:47.958 --> 00:22:48.541
They're like, "What are

804
00:22:48.541 --> 00:22:49.541
they saying in that window?"

805
00:22:49.541 --> 00:22:51.166
They just aim the thing in the window.

806
00:22:51.166 --> 00:22:52.625
I have no idea if that's accurate or not.

807
00:22:52.833 --> 00:22:53.208
I don't know.

808
00:22:53.208 --> 00:22:55.083
Maybe I just wasn't good with EQs back

809
00:22:55.083 --> 00:22:56.750
then or something, but I didn't have a

810
00:22:56.750 --> 00:22:57.583
very good experience.

811
00:22:57.583 --> 00:22:59.250
I think this would be great at a wedding.

812
00:22:59.291 --> 00:23:01.166
Just going around, aiming at people and

813
00:23:01.166 --> 00:23:02.625
then you would get mostly what they say

814
00:23:02.625 --> 00:23:04.375
with a bit of what everyone also says.

815
00:23:04.375 --> 00:23:05.750
You get the ambience, but you can still

816
00:23:05.750 --> 00:23:07.000
make out what people are saying.

817
00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:08.250
If you do have the time, it's better to

818
00:23:08.250 --> 00:23:11.541
mic people up with a lav, a lavalier mic

819
00:23:11.541 --> 00:23:14.916
that you clip yay high... about a chest level.

820
00:23:14.958 --> 00:23:17.166
Not up on the collar, but like lower.

821
00:23:17.166 --> 00:23:18.125
So you get some some

822
00:23:18.125 --> 00:23:19.333
resonance from the chest.

823
00:23:19.500 --> 00:23:20.833
You can do it underneath the clothing,

824
00:23:20.833 --> 00:23:23.041
but that's going to muffle sound a bit.

825
00:23:23.041 --> 00:23:23.750
So you're going to have to

826
00:23:23.750 --> 00:23:24.666
compensate for that and EQ.

827
00:23:24.708 --> 00:23:25.500
There's a bunch of ways.

828
00:23:25.500 --> 00:23:26.291
There's very good

829
00:23:26.291 --> 00:23:27.708
videos on how to mic up people.

830
00:23:27.958 --> 00:23:28.500
Problem.

831
00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:30.000
It's not great to do that

832
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.708
inside and also like good lav mics--

833
00:23:32.750 --> 00:23:34.458
So the bit that actually looks like a mic

834
00:23:34.458 --> 00:23:35.208
has a cable and everything

835
00:23:35.208 --> 00:23:37.000
on that slide are expensive.

836
00:23:37.041 --> 00:23:39.750
The Wireless Go 2 kit that you can see

837
00:23:39.750 --> 00:23:40.916
here with two transmitters and one

838
00:23:40.916 --> 00:23:43.958
receiver is expensive ish, but it's so

839
00:23:43.958 --> 00:23:44.625
good and comes with

840
00:23:44.625 --> 00:23:45.666
built in mics and everything.

841
00:23:45.666 --> 00:23:46.541
I really love that.

842
00:23:46.541 --> 00:23:47.333
There's so many so many

843
00:23:47.333 --> 00:23:48.750
good features on that thing.

844
00:23:48.750 --> 00:23:50.625
But the actual mic part, the tiny tiny

845
00:23:50.625 --> 00:23:51.708
tiny bit like it's very

846
00:23:51.708 --> 00:23:52.750
expensive to get a good one.

847
00:23:52.750 --> 00:23:53.541
And I think the ones that I

848
00:23:53.541 --> 00:23:54.791
had are just not very good.

849
00:23:54.833 --> 00:23:56.375
But you can see people using

850
00:23:56.375 --> 00:23:57.458
them all the time on YouTube.

851
00:23:57.708 --> 00:23:59.333
If you've ever seen someone with a kind

852
00:23:59.333 --> 00:24:02.125
of little square box hanging off of their

853
00:24:02.125 --> 00:24:04.291
clothes or a collar or something, that's

854
00:24:04.291 --> 00:24:07.583
usually either a RØDE Wireless Go

855
00:24:07.583 --> 00:24:09.708
<v James Munns>RØDE has one or like DJI

856
00:24:09.708 --> 00:24:11.708
has the other like pill shaped one.

857
00:24:11.708 --> 00:24:13.166
<v Amos Wenger>RØDE Wireless Pro or DJI.

858
00:24:13.166 --> 00:24:14.916
Yeah DJI, DJI actually...

859
00:24:14.916 --> 00:24:15.916
I think they make better ones.

860
00:24:15.916 --> 00:24:17.583
I think I bought the wrong brand.

861
00:24:17.666 --> 00:24:18.291
<v James Munns>We went we went with

862
00:24:18.291 --> 00:24:19.375
the RØDE Wireless Pro.

863
00:24:19.375 --> 00:24:20.291
So like the exact ones you

864
00:24:20.291 --> 00:24:21.208
have on your screen right now.

865
00:24:21.208 --> 00:24:23.208
So there's like one at the conference

866
00:24:23.208 --> 00:24:26.000
episode of Chats with James.

867
00:24:26.041 --> 00:24:28.291
And that's what we use to record that.

868
00:24:28.333 --> 00:24:30.208
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah, what I discovered when I did my

869
00:24:30.208 --> 00:24:32.250
shoots is that when I mic'd myself up

870
00:24:32.250 --> 00:24:34.208
with the lav mic, I got worse sound than

871
00:24:34.208 --> 00:24:35.291
just using the built in

872
00:24:35.291 --> 00:24:36.208
mic on the transmitter.

873
00:24:36.625 --> 00:24:38.583
So that's why you see people with the

874
00:24:38.583 --> 00:24:39.958
visible transmitter hanging out.

875
00:24:40.291 --> 00:24:42.208
The thing I have on the slide is a short

876
00:24:42.208 --> 00:24:45.708
from Roman Doduik, is a French comedian.

877
00:24:45.750 --> 00:24:47.708
And yeah, you see those everywhere and

878
00:24:47.708 --> 00:24:50.041
you see them in one of my videos as well.

879
00:24:50.041 --> 00:24:50.750
I don't actually know if

880
00:24:50.750 --> 00:24:51.958
this one's released or not.

881
00:24:51.958 --> 00:24:55.375
I forget. But yeah, you can see not only my

882
00:24:55.375 --> 00:24:58.625
Wireless Go II transmitter, but also a

883
00:24:58.625 --> 00:25:01.375
little old bonnet, a little wind shield

884
00:25:01.375 --> 00:25:02.458
protection going on.

885
00:25:02.500 --> 00:25:03.666
I have two of those on this slide.

886
00:25:03.958 --> 00:25:05.000
James, do you know what they're called?

887
00:25:05.250 --> 00:25:07.041
<v James Munns>The big one is called a dead cat and the

888
00:25:07.041 --> 00:25:08.416
little one is called a dead kitten.

889
00:25:08.958 --> 00:25:09.708
<v Amos Wenger>Exactly.

890
00:25:10.500 --> 00:25:12.375
<v James Munns>Yeah, I learned this when we bought this.

891
00:25:12.375 --> 00:25:14.666
They're like the wind protector things

892
00:25:14.666 --> 00:25:16.541
and they're very lovingly called.

893
00:25:16.541 --> 00:25:18.916
I'm sure there's a nicer term for them, but...

894
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:20.083
<v Amos Wenger>I don't know.

895
00:25:20.083 --> 00:25:20.916
The dead kitten thing

896
00:25:20.916 --> 00:25:22.916
makes me laugh every time.

897
00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:25.333
They're fake for don't don't be scared.

898
00:25:25.333 --> 00:25:27.833
I even have one for my portable recorder.

899
00:25:27.833 --> 00:25:29.083
We'll actually get to it.

900
00:25:29.083 --> 00:25:30.125
Moving on.

901
00:25:30.166 --> 00:25:32.791
I essentially I got tired of having to

902
00:25:32.791 --> 00:25:34.000
record sounds separately.

903
00:25:34.250 --> 00:25:35.791
I got tired of having something that I

904
00:25:35.791 --> 00:25:37.750
can accidentally put my hands in front of

905
00:25:37.750 --> 00:25:39.125
or like tap with my hands because I'd

906
00:25:39.125 --> 00:25:40.250
like to move around a lot.

907
00:25:40.250 --> 00:25:41.250
I got tired of having

908
00:25:41.250 --> 00:25:42.583
friction against my clothing.

909
00:25:42.583 --> 00:25:44.791
You can hear that very, very much with a

910
00:25:44.791 --> 00:25:46.666
lav mic. And it just didn't sound very

911
00:25:46.666 --> 00:25:49.541
good compared to a nice

912
00:25:49.541 --> 00:25:51.083
dynamic mic like the SM7B.

913
00:25:51.083 --> 00:25:53.000
You get this when I do voiceover, I get

914
00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:54.791
this nice full voice deep voice.

915
00:25:54.833 --> 00:25:56.625
And then when I moved to the mic, it

916
00:25:56.625 --> 00:25:59.208
sounds like baby's first YouTube video.

917
00:25:59.250 --> 00:26:00.083
So...

918
00:26:00.125 --> 00:26:00.958
<v James Munns>Oh! I learned the name for this.

919
00:26:00.958 --> 00:26:03.333
It's the proximity effect in that when

920
00:26:03.333 --> 00:26:05.250
you are so close, the pressure wave

921
00:26:05.250 --> 00:26:06.666
actually gives a lot

922
00:26:06.666 --> 00:26:08.208
more bass into the mic.

923
00:26:08.291 --> 00:26:09.791
Where if you're further away and you

924
00:26:09.791 --> 00:26:11.833
don't get the actual like pressure impact

925
00:26:11.833 --> 00:26:13.666
that you would from direct proximity,

926
00:26:14.250 --> 00:26:15.625
then you have to EQ it

927
00:26:15.625 --> 00:26:16.708
to almost match that.

928
00:26:16.708 --> 00:26:17.875
But that's why a lot of these like

929
00:26:17.875 --> 00:26:19.791
cardioid mics and things like that sound

930
00:26:19.791 --> 00:26:21.666
so like full and bassy when you're close

931
00:26:21.666 --> 00:26:23.416
to them, because you're actually like

932
00:26:23.416 --> 00:26:25.125
you're close enough that you're pushing

933
00:26:25.125 --> 00:26:26.875
enough pressure on them.

934
00:26:27.166 --> 00:26:30.041
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah, the waves of different frequency

935
00:26:30.041 --> 00:26:31.500
don't travel exactly the same way or

936
00:26:31.500 --> 00:26:32.458
react to the same way

937
00:26:32.458 --> 00:26:33.708
to the room and whatnot.

938
00:26:33.750 --> 00:26:36.375
So I eventually bought-- well, actually, I

939
00:26:36.375 --> 00:26:38.291
bought it a while ago when I tried it

940
00:26:38.291 --> 00:26:40.250
once and it didn't sound good.

941
00:26:40.250 --> 00:26:42.125
So I gave up and it gets sat in the

942
00:26:42.125 --> 00:26:43.000
drawer for two years.

943
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:44.458
But then I brought it back recently.

944
00:26:44.708 --> 00:26:46.041
A shotgun mic, I got the

945
00:26:46.041 --> 00:26:47.333
cheapo version by RØDE.

946
00:26:47.541 --> 00:26:48.416
It's an NTG4+.

947
00:26:48.875 --> 00:26:50.500
Again, weird naming conventions.

948
00:26:50.791 --> 00:26:53.125
The NTG4 is not that expensive.

949
00:26:53.541 --> 00:26:56.000
The NTG3 is a lot more expensive and NTG2

950
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:58.416
is like I need to take out a loan.

951
00:26:58.416 --> 00:27:00.875
But it's, you know, I got this nice shock

952
00:27:00.875 --> 00:27:03.541
mount to avoid vibrations, even though

953
00:27:03.541 --> 00:27:05.250
it's just sitting on a-- this would be more

954
00:27:05.250 --> 00:27:06.500
relevant, I think, if someone was

955
00:27:06.500 --> 00:27:08.125
actually holding a boom pole and we were

956
00:27:08.125 --> 00:27:10.000
just walking around, then it would make

957
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.125
sense to have a shock mount.

958
00:27:11.125 --> 00:27:12.291
But this fixed setup, it

959
00:27:12.291 --> 00:27:13.208
doesn't really make sense.

960
00:27:13.208 --> 00:27:14.250
This is what it looks like.

961
00:27:14.250 --> 00:27:14.916
You just plug--

962
00:27:14.916 --> 00:27:17.791
It's exactly the size of an XLR plug.

963
00:27:18.458 --> 00:27:19.750
Well, a little more because you have to

964
00:27:19.750 --> 00:27:20.541
fit it in, obviously.

965
00:27:20.833 --> 00:27:23.375
But yeah, you just got this long shotgun

966
00:27:23.375 --> 00:27:25.041
like cylinder and then you

967
00:27:25.041 --> 00:27:26.958
just plug an XLR cable into it.

968
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:28.125
And it does need power.

969
00:27:28.541 --> 00:27:29.583
So it has something interesting where you

970
00:27:29.583 --> 00:27:31.750
can plug it with not USB-C.

971
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:33.250
I wish. You have to plug it

972
00:27:33.250 --> 00:27:35.208
with, I think mini or micro...

973
00:27:35.500 --> 00:27:36.916
It has to be micro USB, I think.

974
00:27:37.166 --> 00:27:38.541
And then you can charge it up and you

975
00:27:38.541 --> 00:27:40.083
have 150 hours of it.

976
00:27:40.083 --> 00:27:42.500
Or you can power it with phantom power,

977
00:27:42.500 --> 00:27:43.958
which we've seen. The plus 48 volts.

978
00:27:44.375 --> 00:27:45.583
So I actually never charge it.

979
00:27:45.583 --> 00:27:46.458
I just have phantom

980
00:27:46.458 --> 00:27:47.541
power coming through XLR.

981
00:27:47.541 --> 00:27:48.916
And that's... that's great because batteries

982
00:27:48.916 --> 00:27:52.750
are the enemy... batteries are the enemy. I will show you.

983
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:54.750
The problem is now you need to connect

984
00:27:54.750 --> 00:27:57.208
that XLR thing to something and it's

985
00:27:57.208 --> 00:27:59.583
certainly not going to be a camera.

986
00:27:59.958 --> 00:28:01.000
It's not going to be

987
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:02.583
an iPhone or whatever.

988
00:28:02.583 --> 00:28:04.833
You have to be something that has an XLR

989
00:28:04.833 --> 00:28:05.375
input that can

990
00:28:05.375 --> 00:28:06.416
provide that phantom power.

991
00:28:06.708 --> 00:28:09.291
And one of those things is the Zoom H4n

992
00:28:09.291 --> 00:28:10.708
Pro Black, which has.

993
00:28:10.791 --> 00:28:11.541
So on this side, you can see that it has

994
00:28:11.541 --> 00:28:13.083
mics going that way.

995
00:28:13.083 --> 00:28:14.250
And that way they're kind of crossing.

996
00:28:14.250 --> 00:28:15.541
They're going to X pattern.

997
00:28:15.541 --> 00:28:16.916
They're called XY mic.

998
00:28:17.041 --> 00:28:20.166
I'm not sure why, but they do a great job

999
00:28:20.166 --> 00:28:21.750
at recording stereo.

1000
00:28:21.791 --> 00:28:23.291
It's actually very funny to just hold one

1001
00:28:23.291 --> 00:28:25.291
of these and have the-- have to do

1002
00:28:25.291 --> 00:28:27.000
headphones plugged in and just go around

1003
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.291
and listen to the world in stereo because

1004
00:28:29.291 --> 00:28:30.625
it's like having ears,

1005
00:28:30.833 --> 00:28:32.583
but more sensitive, I guess.

1006
00:28:32.625 --> 00:28:34.083
It's a very funny sensation.

1007
00:28:34.333 --> 00:28:35.083
It does come with its

1008
00:28:35.083 --> 00:28:35.916
own little dead cat.

1009
00:28:35.916 --> 00:28:38.125
I included the accessories, but it's

1010
00:28:38.125 --> 00:28:39.458
actually big because you have to cover

1011
00:28:39.458 --> 00:28:40.583
both the X and Y mics.

1012
00:28:40.625 --> 00:28:42.500
You have to stretch it over.

1013
00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:43.166
It's really weird.

1014
00:28:43.208 --> 00:28:44.625
<v James Munns>These are the kind of mics that like the

1015
00:28:44.625 --> 00:28:46.041
first ones that were portable enough to

1016
00:28:46.041 --> 00:28:48.583
get good recording portably.

1017
00:28:48.583 --> 00:28:50.166
And they were used for a lot of bootleg

1018
00:28:50.166 --> 00:28:51.833
recording of concerts because they were

1019
00:28:51.833 --> 00:28:53.375
small enough to fit in pockets and things

1020
00:28:53.375 --> 00:28:54.958
like that, but still high quality enough

1021
00:28:54.958 --> 00:28:57.333
to get like solid bootleg recordings.

1022
00:28:57.333 --> 00:28:58.375
<v Amos Wenger>That makes sense.

1023
00:28:58.416 --> 00:29:00.541
I've seen them used mostly for well,

1024
00:29:00.541 --> 00:29:01.541
recording ambient sounds.

1025
00:29:01.541 --> 00:29:03.791
You go into the forest near a river, get

1026
00:29:03.791 --> 00:29:04.583
some birds, whatever.

1027
00:29:04.625 --> 00:29:08.416
And those work off of two AA batteries,

1028
00:29:08.416 --> 00:29:10.208
which is great when you want to move

1029
00:29:10.208 --> 00:29:12.750
around and not great when you just want a

1030
00:29:12.750 --> 00:29:15.500
freaking home studio set up that reliably

1031
00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:16.833
works because the rule

1032
00:29:16.833 --> 00:29:18.416
of maximum annoyance.

1033
00:29:18.458 --> 00:29:20.125
One of your things will be out of battery

1034
00:29:20.125 --> 00:29:21.125
by the time you need to shoot.

1035
00:29:21.583 --> 00:29:23.166
<v James Munns>I was enough of a theater kid that I

1036
00:29:23.166 --> 00:29:24.166
remember like for mic

1037
00:29:24.166 --> 00:29:25.291
packs and stuff like that.

1038
00:29:25.291 --> 00:29:27.208
That was like one of the big things that

1039
00:29:27.208 --> 00:29:28.791
the tech team would always have is they

1040
00:29:28.791 --> 00:29:31.041
would just have walls of double A's and

1041
00:29:31.041 --> 00:29:32.208
nine volts and whatever else

1042
00:29:32.208 --> 00:29:33.583
all the mic packs required.

1043
00:29:33.625 --> 00:29:36.125
Because at any moment you had to be like--

1044
00:29:36.125 --> 00:29:37.583
or before every show, you would just

1045
00:29:37.583 --> 00:29:39.083
cycle all the batteries so that you

1046
00:29:39.083 --> 00:29:40.625
didn't run out, even if you could

1047
00:29:40.625 --> 00:29:42.500
probably go two or three shows, like you

1048
00:29:42.500 --> 00:29:44.250
don't want to be mid something and then

1049
00:29:44.250 --> 00:29:45.125
totally drop your

1050
00:29:45.125 --> 00:29:47.083
recording or your mic or whatever.

1051
00:29:47.083 --> 00:29:48.625
<v Amos Wenger>And that's funny because sometimes I get emails from

1052
00:29:48.625 --> 00:29:50.041
people like, "Oh Amos, I would like to like

1053
00:29:50.041 --> 00:29:50.791
work with you, learn

1054
00:29:50.791 --> 00:29:51.416
from you!" or whatever.

1055
00:29:51.416 --> 00:29:52.041
I'm like, "Okay, are you

1056
00:29:52.041 --> 00:29:53.375
ready to charge batteries?"

1057
00:29:53.583 --> 00:29:54.583
Because that's what I do.

1058
00:29:54.625 --> 00:29:56.791
That's the-- there's so much to the job.

1059
00:29:56.791 --> 00:29:58.125
So like thinking of how are you going to

1060
00:29:58.125 --> 00:30:00.083
plug things in and like figuring out how

1061
00:30:00.083 --> 00:30:01.333
to hang your lights so they

1062
00:30:01.333 --> 00:30:02.958
don't fall off and kill everyone.

1063
00:30:02.958 --> 00:30:03.875
That's just you really--

1064
00:30:03.875 --> 00:30:04.541
But anyway, yeah, batteries

1065
00:30:04.541 --> 00:30:06.250
are a big, a big bad thing.

1066
00:30:06.250 --> 00:30:07.833
So we have these fake ones.

1067
00:30:07.833 --> 00:30:08.583
We have fake...

1068
00:30:08.625 --> 00:30:10.750
It's called a DC coupler on there.

1069
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:12.208
I'm actually happy with that job.

1070
00:30:12.625 --> 00:30:13.875
It's a thing that has the exact shape of

1071
00:30:13.875 --> 00:30:15.458
the battery, but there's a little cable

1072
00:30:15.458 --> 00:30:17.333
coming out going into a power supply.

1073
00:30:17.500 --> 00:30:19.458
And this is how it looks in

1074
00:30:19.458 --> 00:30:21.458
situ in the DC-GH5

1075
00:30:21.458 --> 00:30:23.291
This is one for my camera.

1076
00:30:23.333 --> 00:30:24.833
And you can see that the camera

1077
00:30:24.833 --> 00:30:26.666
manufacturer knows about it, even though

1078
00:30:26.666 --> 00:30:28.500
they don't sell that, I think.

1079
00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:29.500
But you have this little

1080
00:30:29.500 --> 00:30:30.958
how do you describe it, James?

1081
00:30:30.958 --> 00:30:31.666
Help me out here.

1082
00:30:31.791 --> 00:30:33.291
<v James Munns>It's like the mouse hole

1083
00:30:33.291 --> 00:30:34.791
that you see in every comic.

1084
00:30:34.791 --> 00:30:35.541
It's like that little

1085
00:30:35.541 --> 00:30:36.916
round corner in there.

1086
00:30:36.916 --> 00:30:38.333
And if you've ever wondered why your

1087
00:30:38.333 --> 00:30:40.166
battery door has like a little rubber

1088
00:30:40.166 --> 00:30:42.208
door on it, it's exactly for this.

1089
00:30:42.208 --> 00:30:43.000
And I have one of these

1090
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:44.083
for my cameras as well.

1091
00:30:44.083 --> 00:30:45.958
And I realized I was like- oh, I had

1092
00:30:45.958 --> 00:30:47.458
never noticed that before.

1093
00:30:47.458 --> 00:30:48.666
But it's for exactly this.

1094
00:30:48.708 --> 00:30:50.458
<v Amos Wenger>But it got me nervous to use those

1095
00:30:50.458 --> 00:30:53.666
because you're buying a camera that costs

1096
00:30:53.666 --> 00:30:55.958
upwards of a thousand and then you're

1097
00:30:55.958 --> 00:30:57.083
buying a fifteen dollar

1098
00:30:57.125 --> 00:30:58.041
<v James Munns>Ali Express

1099
00:30:58.083 --> 00:30:59.125
<v Amos Wenger>adapter like this

1100
00:30:59.125 --> 00:31:00.000
<v James Munns>USB adapter

1101
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:01.500
<v Amos Wenger>which could fry your thing.

1102
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.250
Yeah, I was very nervous the

1103
00:31:03.250 --> 00:31:04.750
first time, but it works fine.

1104
00:31:05.083 --> 00:31:08.708
And so for the the Zoom H4n Pro Black

1105
00:31:08.708 --> 00:31:11.208
recorder, you can actually see from that

1106
00:31:11.208 --> 00:31:12.791
angle, you can see the XLR

1107
00:31:12.791 --> 00:31:14.458
inputs between both XLR inputs.

1108
00:31:14.500 --> 00:31:16.041
You have a power input.

1109
00:31:16.041 --> 00:31:18.083
It doesn't just run off of batteries.

1110
00:31:18.500 --> 00:31:20.916
And so I bought the most cursed USB cable

1111
00:31:20.916 --> 00:31:21.875
you've ever seen, probably.

1112
00:31:22.125 --> 00:31:23.208
Can you describe it?

1113
00:31:23.250 --> 00:31:25.041
<v James Munns>Oh, I this... we will get

1114
00:31:25.041 --> 00:31:25.833
into some cursed stuff.

1115
00:31:25.833 --> 00:31:28.375
Yeah, this is like a traditional USB to a

1116
00:31:28.375 --> 00:31:30.000
barrel jack where you have like five volt--

1117
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:30.958
because everything uses

1118
00:31:30.958 --> 00:31:32.083
a five volt barrel jack.

1119
00:31:32.333 --> 00:31:33.250
And if you just need

1120
00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:34.541
five volts, you can do that.

1121
00:31:34.541 --> 00:31:36.291
The really cursed ones are the ones that

1122
00:31:36.291 --> 00:31:37.625
look like this, but

1123
00:31:37.625 --> 00:31:39.416
aren't really five volts.

1124
00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:40.708
Or they do like cursed

1125
00:31:40.708 --> 00:31:42.000
things like boost the power.

1126
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.166
Or now that USB-C is a thing, you can use

1127
00:31:44.166 --> 00:31:45.541
USB PD and you can get up to

1128
00:31:45.541 --> 00:31:47.458
20 volts on these barrel jacks.

1129
00:31:47.458 --> 00:31:49.416
And barrel jacks have no actual standard

1130
00:31:49.416 --> 00:31:50.583
for what their voltage is.

1131
00:31:50.583 --> 00:31:53.291
By convention, the 2.1

1132
00:31:53.291 --> 00:31:55.458
millimeter ones tend to be five volts.

1133
00:31:55.708 --> 00:31:57.791
But whether it's center positive or not

1134
00:31:57.791 --> 00:31:59.500
center positive and what the actual

1135
00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:01.458
voltage is all very, very cursed.

1136
00:32:01.500 --> 00:32:03.750
<v Amos Wenger>I learned that at a very young age

1137
00:32:03.750 --> 00:32:04.583
because we had some of

1138
00:32:04.583 --> 00:32:05.958
those universal power supplies.

1139
00:32:05.958 --> 00:32:08.208
And I learned that you can go like get

1140
00:32:08.208 --> 00:32:09.541
the voltage from 1.5

1141
00:32:09.541 --> 00:32:10.708
all the way up to 9.

1142
00:32:10.708 --> 00:32:11.791
I think it was from our model.

1143
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:12.625
And then you can also

1144
00:32:12.625 --> 00:32:13.958
switch the polarity.

1145
00:32:14.041 --> 00:32:15.833
And I think I killed a couple of devices

1146
00:32:15.833 --> 00:32:17.333
just by getting it wrong.

1147
00:32:17.333 --> 00:32:18.250
Just go pop.

1148
00:32:18.250 --> 00:32:19.750
And it goes like, which one was it again?

1149
00:32:20.458 --> 00:32:21.208
Oh, yeah.

1150
00:32:21.208 --> 00:32:22.333
OK, so let's say you do all this, right?

1151
00:32:22.333 --> 00:32:23.083
You have your you have

1152
00:32:23.083 --> 00:32:24.541
your portable H4n recorder.

1153
00:32:24.833 --> 00:32:26.958
You plug your shotgun mic into it.

1154
00:32:27.291 --> 00:32:28.458
Everything is charged, everything--

1155
00:32:28.500 --> 00:32:30.166
Or you use those- those power cables.

1156
00:32:30.583 --> 00:32:32.750
Then you have the audio that comes from

1157
00:32:32.750 --> 00:32:34.750
the camera and you have the audio that

1158
00:32:34.750 --> 00:32:36.458
comes- the good audio, the audio you want.

1159
00:32:36.750 --> 00:32:38.041
So how do you sync that up?

1160
00:32:38.041 --> 00:32:40.125
Well, professionals have time code.

1161
00:32:40.416 --> 00:32:41.791
I don't know exactly how it works, but

1162
00:32:41.791 --> 00:32:42.666
all their equipment

1163
00:32:42.666 --> 00:32:43.666
is connected together.

1164
00:32:43.666 --> 00:32:44.875
And there's something that generates the

1165
00:32:44.875 --> 00:32:46.375
clock signal and they record it.

1166
00:32:46.375 --> 00:32:48.125
And so to align it, they just say the

1167
00:32:48.125 --> 00:32:48.833
different clips align

1168
00:32:48.833 --> 00:32:49.666
them with the time code.

1169
00:32:49.666 --> 00:32:50.541
I don't have that.

1170
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.583
You definitely cannot rely on the daytime

1171
00:32:52.583 --> 00:32:54.041
of any given device,

1172
00:32:54.041 --> 00:32:55.458
especially battery powered ones.

1173
00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:57.083
There's no way this is precise enough.

1174
00:32:57.166 --> 00:32:58.666
So you do it by waveform

1175
00:32:58.666 --> 00:33:00.625
or by whatever feels right.

1176
00:33:00.833 --> 00:33:02.333
And you get it wrong a lot.

1177
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:04.250
Again, if you go to my early videos, you

1178
00:33:04.250 --> 00:33:05.500
can see delays is

1179
00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:06.708
large as 200 milliseconds.

1180
00:33:07.166 --> 00:33:09.125
Now I'm pissy if I'm looking at something

1181
00:33:09.125 --> 00:33:10.791
and it's 15 milliseconds off.

1182
00:33:10.791 --> 00:33:11.583
I'm like, no, no, no, let

1183
00:33:11.583 --> 00:33:12.541
me- let me go in the setting.

1184
00:33:12.541 --> 00:33:14.083
Something's not right.

1185
00:33:15.083 --> 00:33:16.166
<v James Munns>You've caught that on some of our stuff.

1186
00:33:16.166 --> 00:33:17.000
I feel like one of the older

1187
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:18.500
tools we had did that once.

1188
00:33:18.500 --> 00:33:19.208
And you're like, "No! I can

1189
00:33:19.208 --> 00:33:20.708
tell! There's 50 milliseconds.

1190
00:33:20.708 --> 00:33:22.083
It's not right..."

1191
00:33:22.083 --> 00:33:24.833
And I'm like, oh, OK.

1192
00:33:24.833 --> 00:33:26.750
<v Amos Wenger>Oh, and you can't really, really do

1193
00:33:26.750 --> 00:33:28.541
waveform because if your camera is

1194
00:33:28.541 --> 00:33:30.375
further away, it actually takes time for

1195
00:33:30.375 --> 00:33:31.083
sound to travel all

1196
00:33:31.083 --> 00:33:31.708
the way to the camera.

1197
00:33:32.416 --> 00:33:34.583
So you have to choose like what feels

1198
00:33:34.583 --> 00:33:36.666
right and what is actually right.

1199
00:33:36.958 --> 00:33:39.041
You have to choose a compromise because I

1200
00:33:39.041 --> 00:33:39.833
don't know, it's complicated.

1201
00:33:40.083 --> 00:33:42.208
But yeah, the slide is of the DaVinci Resolve

1202
00:33:42.208 --> 00:33:44.250
timeline with two audio clips.

1203
00:33:44.250 --> 00:33:45.958
And you can see actually the

1204
00:33:45.958 --> 00:33:47.166
one that says external mic.

1205
00:33:47.166 --> 00:33:48.666
You can see there's fewer...

1206
00:33:48.666 --> 00:33:49.791
There's less noise than on

1207
00:33:49.791 --> 00:33:51.791
the iPhone mic in the middle.

1208
00:33:51.875 --> 00:33:54.291
And if you see there's... there's only one

1209
00:33:54.291 --> 00:33:56.250
noise and there's like two or three at

1210
00:33:56.250 --> 00:33:58.416
the bottom on the- on the yellow timeline.

1211
00:33:58.416 --> 00:33:59.541
That's because, yeah, the iPhone picks up

1212
00:33:59.541 --> 00:34:01.625
a bunch of stuff and the shotgun is

1213
00:34:01.625 --> 00:34:04.625
sitting literally just above me, just out

1214
00:34:04.625 --> 00:34:06.041
of frame with the safety

1215
00:34:06.041 --> 00:34:07.458
margin because I'm not crazy.

1216
00:34:07.541 --> 00:34:10.583
And I found a better way.

1217
00:34:11.041 --> 00:34:12.541
I don't have to do AV

1218
00:34:12.541 --> 00:34:14.333
sync again in my life.

1219
00:34:14.333 --> 00:34:14.875
This is the whole

1220
00:34:14.875 --> 00:34:15.750
reason I made the slide.

1221
00:34:15.750 --> 00:34:17.125
Not just because he asked that because I

1222
00:34:17.125 --> 00:34:18.166
discovered something.

1223
00:34:18.208 --> 00:34:21.500
So I have my shotgun mic go into the Zoom

1224
00:34:21.500 --> 00:34:24.791
UAC-232 external USB audio interface,

1225
00:34:24.791 --> 00:34:25.916
which I originally bought because I

1226
00:34:25.916 --> 00:34:28.791
wanted to test out floating point audio.

1227
00:34:29.083 --> 00:34:30.166
Why did I want to do that?

1228
00:34:30.166 --> 00:34:31.875
Because on the list of things that maybe

1229
00:34:31.875 --> 00:34:33.041
lose recordings, clipping

1230
00:34:33.041 --> 00:34:34.458
is definitely one of them.

1231
00:34:34.458 --> 00:34:35.000
It's like, "Oh, I can't

1232
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:35.666
hear anything! Better

1233
00:34:35.666 --> 00:34:36.083
turn it up!"

1234
00:34:36.083 --> 00:34:37.666
And then you're clipping and then the

1235
00:34:37.666 --> 00:34:38.958
entire recording is ruined.

1236
00:34:38.958 --> 00:34:41.083
You can see actually on this slide 32

1237
00:34:41.083 --> 00:34:42.416
bit float is enabled.

1238
00:34:42.416 --> 00:34:43.750
They have a little marker for it.

1239
00:34:43.750 --> 00:34:46.083
I think it's one of the first USB ones

1240
00:34:46.083 --> 00:34:47.208
that are consumer grade.

1241
00:34:47.208 --> 00:34:48.083
Sounds weird because

1242
00:34:48.083 --> 00:34:49.125
Zoom is definitely released.

1243
00:34:49.125 --> 00:34:50.500
Like the F6 could do that.

1244
00:34:50.500 --> 00:34:51.833
Some portable ones could do it before.

1245
00:34:52.041 --> 00:34:52.916
But I think it's the

1246
00:34:52.916 --> 00:34:54.000
first consumer grade.

1247
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:54.833
You can just plug it into

1248
00:34:54.833 --> 00:34:55.750
your computer and it works.

1249
00:34:56.208 --> 00:34:57.416
So the shotgun mic goes

1250
00:34:57.416 --> 00:34:59.500
into that Zoom UAC-232.

1251
00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:01.166
And then what's really interesting about

1252
00:35:01.166 --> 00:35:04.541
this one, and that I can't do with my

1253
00:35:04.541 --> 00:35:06.375
other ones, which are Scarlett Solos,

1254
00:35:06.375 --> 00:35:07.916
Scarlett Duo, is that

1255
00:35:07.916 --> 00:35:10.708
it has two USB-C inputs.

1256
00:35:10.750 --> 00:35:12.666
One for signal or data

1257
00:35:12.666 --> 00:35:14.083
rather and one for power.

1258
00:35:14.375 --> 00:35:16.208
So you can barely see it from that shot.

1259
00:35:16.458 --> 00:35:18.125
But if you look next to that, you can see

1260
00:35:18.125 --> 00:35:19.333
there's two cables going in.

1261
00:35:19.708 --> 00:35:22.208
The left one says DC 5 volt and the right one

1262
00:35:22.208 --> 00:35:23.458
has the little USB symbol.

1263
00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:25.958
And so you don't have to plug both in.

1264
00:35:25.958 --> 00:35:27.791
If you plug only one into a computer,

1265
00:35:27.875 --> 00:35:28.875
only the data one to

1266
00:35:28.875 --> 00:35:29.916
the computer, it'll work.

1267
00:35:29.916 --> 00:35:33.000
But if you use this accessory, the camera

1268
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.083
accessory for iPhone, that the male end

1269
00:35:36.083 --> 00:35:37.041
goes into the iPhone

1270
00:35:37.041 --> 00:35:38.250
is a lightning cable.

1271
00:35:38.250 --> 00:35:39.166
And then you have three...

1272
00:35:39.166 --> 00:35:40.833
Is there a better terminology that

1273
00:35:40.833 --> 00:35:41.875
male-female that we've

1274
00:35:41.875 --> 00:35:43.083
come up with in the year 2025?

1275
00:35:43.291 --> 00:35:44.625
<v James Munns>Yeah, plug and receptacle.

1276
00:35:44.625 --> 00:35:45.291
<v Amos Wenger>Plug and receptacle.

1277
00:35:45.291 --> 00:35:45.666
OK, cool.

1278
00:35:45.666 --> 00:35:47.208
So the plug is lightning.

1279
00:35:47.208 --> 00:35:48.291
It goes into the iPhone and

1280
00:35:48.291 --> 00:35:49.458
then you have three receptacles.

1281
00:35:49.500 --> 00:35:52.500
Two are USB-A, correct me if I'm wrong,

1282
00:35:52.500 --> 00:35:53.666
and one is lightning as well.

1283
00:35:53.666 --> 00:35:55.666
So you can have two USB-A accessories

1284
00:35:55.666 --> 00:35:57.958
connected and also still provide power to

1285
00:35:57.958 --> 00:35:59.291
the phone, which is important again when

1286
00:35:59.291 --> 00:36:00.875
you shoot for a long period of time.

1287
00:36:01.208 --> 00:36:03.208
And that USB-A cable goes all the way to

1288
00:36:03.208 --> 00:36:04.458
the external USB audio interface.

1289
00:36:04.791 --> 00:36:06.375
I was kind of-- I thought about it.

1290
00:36:06.791 --> 00:36:07.708
I was probably having a nap

1291
00:36:07.708 --> 00:36:08.958
and I was like, "But could I?

1292
00:36:09.416 --> 00:36:10.708
Like, what... would it just work?

1293
00:36:10.708 --> 00:36:12.375
It's just USB, right?

1294
00:36:12.541 --> 00:36:13.500
I don't know what the

1295
00:36:13.500 --> 00:36:14.500
iPhone has drivers for.

1296
00:36:14.500 --> 00:36:15.375
And yeah, it does work.

1297
00:36:15.875 --> 00:36:16.458
It does work.

1298
00:36:16.500 --> 00:36:18.666
And you can even get floating point audio

1299
00:36:18.666 --> 00:36:20.208
captured directly from the- this--

1300
00:36:20.208 --> 00:36:21.958
So this is a screenshot of the Blackmagic

1301
00:36:21.958 --> 00:36:23.166
camera app on iPhone.

1302
00:36:23.458 --> 00:36:24.625
And you can see the audio source is not

1303
00:36:24.625 --> 00:36:25.583
set to iPhone microphone.

1304
00:36:25.791 --> 00:36:27.208
It's set to Zoom UAC-232.

1305
00:36:27.666 --> 00:36:29.250
So I get floating point audio

1306
00:36:29.250 --> 00:36:32.833
synchronized from my nice little mic

1307
00:36:32.833 --> 00:36:34.333
directly in the

1308
00:36:34.333 --> 00:36:36.208
recording as a single file.

1309
00:36:36.208 --> 00:36:36.833
I never have to--

1310
00:36:36.833 --> 00:36:38.166
It's never out of sync.

1311
00:36:38.166 --> 00:36:40.125
<v James Munns>So this is our this is our second iPhone.

1312
00:36:40.125 --> 00:36:41.833
So the first one is a teleprompter.

1313
00:36:41.833 --> 00:36:44.416
The second one is a receiver.

1314
00:36:44.416 --> 00:36:45.958
<v Amos Wenger>It's a camera, but... I'll show it.

1315
00:36:45.958 --> 00:36:47.541
We're getting there.

1316
00:36:47.541 --> 00:36:49.250
<v James Munns>OK, camera and receiver

1317
00:36:49.291 --> 00:36:50.166
<v Amos Wenger>camera and monitor.

1318
00:36:50.208 --> 00:36:52.000
Essentially, those are the three iPhones.

1319
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:53.416
Teleprompter, camera, monitor.

1320
00:36:53.416 --> 00:36:53.916
Yeah, yeah.

1321
00:36:53.958 --> 00:36:55.333
For some reason, this is where I put

1322
00:36:55.333 --> 00:36:56.291
slides in about lighting.

1323
00:36:56.666 --> 00:36:57.291
Lighting is hard.

1324
00:36:57.583 --> 00:36:58.583
As you said, it's probably one of the

1325
00:36:58.583 --> 00:36:59.750
most important things.

1326
00:36:59.958 --> 00:37:01.125
And I realize that super late.

1327
00:37:01.416 --> 00:37:02.500
What we see on the slide

1328
00:37:02.500 --> 00:37:03.875
here is that I have glasses.

1329
00:37:03.916 --> 00:37:05.291
And the problem when you have glasses is

1330
00:37:05.291 --> 00:37:06.541
that light reflects on them.

1331
00:37:06.541 --> 00:37:08.166
So you have coding on glasses.

1332
00:37:08.166 --> 00:37:10.583
They try to remove reflections mostly for

1333
00:37:10.583 --> 00:37:13.208
visual comfort as a glasses wearer.

1334
00:37:13.250 --> 00:37:15.291
But while you are shooting your face...

1335
00:37:15.375 --> 00:37:16.500
How do I say this?

1336
00:37:16.500 --> 00:37:17.875
When you're-- when the camera films your

1337
00:37:17.875 --> 00:37:18.791
face, there's a lot of

1338
00:37:18.791 --> 00:37:20.500
reflections if you have hard lighting.

1339
00:37:20.500 --> 00:37:22.000
And I do because I have this couple of

1340
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.375
key lights, which are just big LED panels

1341
00:37:24.375 --> 00:37:26.458
with a little plastic white

1342
00:37:26.458 --> 00:37:29.291
plastic sheet on... in front of it.

1343
00:37:29.291 --> 00:37:30.083
It's not soft light.

1344
00:37:30.083 --> 00:37:31.083
I don't have room.

1345
00:37:31.083 --> 00:37:32.416
I simply do not have the physical space

1346
00:37:32.416 --> 00:37:34.208
for soft boxes in the guest room.

1347
00:37:34.208 --> 00:37:34.916
It is--

1348
00:37:34.916 --> 00:37:36.041
I'm too tall and the

1349
00:37:36.041 --> 00:37:36.791
room is not big enough.

1350
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:38.166
<v James Munns>I can't remember if it was you or someone

1351
00:37:38.166 --> 00:37:39.333
else who I was talking to who is saying

1352
00:37:39.333 --> 00:37:41.333
that they actually kind of like the ring

1353
00:37:41.333 --> 00:37:43.166
light look, that it's like now it's

1354
00:37:43.166 --> 00:37:45.875
becoming like familiar and kitschy, I

1355
00:37:45.875 --> 00:37:47.458
guess? Or not kitschy, but like familiar

1356
00:37:47.458 --> 00:37:48.791
and comforting?

1357
00:37:48.791 --> 00:37:50.041
<v Amos Wenger>In the eyeballs, yeah.

1358
00:37:50.041 --> 00:37:51.291
<v James Munns>Yeah. Having the ring light in your glasses or

1359
00:37:51.291 --> 00:37:52.208
your eyes or whatever.

1360
00:37:52.208 --> 00:37:54.083
<v Amos Wenger>But in the glasses, I don't know.

1361
00:37:54.083 --> 00:37:54.916
<v James Munns>I guess you do--

1362
00:37:54.916 --> 00:37:56.166
You must not have been you because you do

1363
00:37:56.166 --> 00:37:57.500
not subscribe to that opinion.

1364
00:37:57.958 --> 00:37:58.833
<v Amos Wenger>I've been trying very

1365
00:37:58.833 --> 00:37:59.750
hard to get rid of it.

1366
00:38:00.083 --> 00:38:01.500
One of the things I've done so you can

1367
00:38:01.500 --> 00:38:03.000
see this is what my actual

1368
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:04.208
shooting station looks like.

1369
00:38:04.208 --> 00:38:05.416
You can see that the

1370
00:38:05.416 --> 00:38:07.416
ceiling is not... it's not right.

1371
00:38:07.416 --> 00:38:08.750
It's not flat.

1372
00:38:08.750 --> 00:38:09.666
It's angled.

1373
00:38:09.666 --> 00:38:11.666
And so my first thought was like, well,

1374
00:38:11.666 --> 00:38:14.000
if I get my key lights aimed at the

1375
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.166
ceiling, then the whole ceiling is like

1376
00:38:16.166 --> 00:38:18.958
one big softbox, which not really because

1377
00:38:18.958 --> 00:38:22.708
you still have a bunch of stands and

1378
00:38:22.708 --> 00:38:23.750
whatnot that obstruct

1379
00:38:23.750 --> 00:38:24.833
the light coming back.

1380
00:38:25.166 --> 00:38:26.166
And you can actually see

1381
00:38:26.166 --> 00:38:27.416
that in the reflection.

1382
00:38:27.500 --> 00:38:29.041
So you see all the it's it's weird.

1383
00:38:29.041 --> 00:38:29.916
It's not great.

1384
00:38:29.916 --> 00:38:31.583
So what I do have right now is it's

1385
00:38:31.583 --> 00:38:32.375
called clamshell

1386
00:38:32.375 --> 00:38:34.333
lighting like a- like a shell.

1387
00:38:34.333 --> 00:38:35.500
You can open and close.

1388
00:38:35.500 --> 00:38:36.416
You get something from the bottom,

1389
00:38:36.416 --> 00:38:37.541
something from the top.

1390
00:38:37.541 --> 00:38:39.125
Usually at the bottom, you would not have

1391
00:38:39.125 --> 00:38:41.166
a secondary light source like I do.

1392
00:38:41.166 --> 00:38:42.375
You would have a reflector,

1393
00:38:42.375 --> 00:38:43.958
but I don't have a reflector.

1394
00:38:43.958 --> 00:38:45.166
So I just have another key

1395
00:38:45.166 --> 00:38:47.458
light that I'm almost stepping on.

1396
00:38:47.708 --> 00:38:48.458
It's bumping against

1397
00:38:48.458 --> 00:38:49.291
my belly when I shoot.

1398
00:38:49.291 --> 00:38:51.500
It's just like just below my chin and

1399
00:38:51.500 --> 00:38:54.000
it's lighting me from below so that I

1400
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:55.375
don't look like I'm telling a horror

1401
00:38:55.375 --> 00:38:57.166
story at a campfire while the opposite of

1402
00:38:57.166 --> 00:38:58.375
that because it's coming from above.

1403
00:38:58.500 --> 00:38:59.791
Whatever! It's balancing the light a

1404
00:38:59.791 --> 00:39:01.291
little bit because if it only comes from

1405
00:39:01.291 --> 00:39:02.833
above the shadows are terrible.

1406
00:39:02.833 --> 00:39:03.708
And I look like I've slept

1407
00:39:03.708 --> 00:39:04.750
even less than I actually have.

1408
00:39:05.041 --> 00:39:07.000
So the top lights, those are all

1409
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.875
controlled by HomeKit, by the way.

1410
00:39:09.041 --> 00:39:09.750
It's all Apple.

1411
00:39:09.750 --> 00:39:10.916
I just I come in.

1412
00:39:10.916 --> 00:39:13.125
I say, "Siri, I'm going to record" and then

1413
00:39:13.125 --> 00:39:15.041
it turns on the lights and "On Air" sign.

1414
00:39:15.041 --> 00:39:16.083
It's very nice.

1415
00:39:16.166 --> 00:39:19.208
And it works pretty well.

1416
00:39:19.208 --> 00:39:21.208
The bottom light is at like three

1417
00:39:21.208 --> 00:39:23.333
percent, I think, out of 100 percent.

1418
00:39:23.833 --> 00:39:25.041
But it makes all the difference.

1419
00:39:25.708 --> 00:39:26.916
And this is what you get.

1420
00:39:27.125 --> 00:39:28.416
If I look straight at the

1421
00:39:28.416 --> 00:39:30.208
camera, you can barely see--

1422
00:39:30.208 --> 00:39:31.833
You can see a hint if you zoom in.

1423
00:39:31.833 --> 00:39:33.333
You can see a hint of the

1424
00:39:33.333 --> 00:39:35.916
bottom lighting in the bottom.

1425
00:39:35.916 --> 00:39:37.041
But it's not distracting.

1426
00:39:37.041 --> 00:39:38.250
You can look me in the eye.

1427
00:39:38.250 --> 00:39:39.833
I look well lit.

1428
00:39:39.833 --> 00:39:41.458
I wouldn't say look good because I've

1429
00:39:41.458 --> 00:39:42.416
been working too much.

1430
00:39:42.416 --> 00:39:43.791
And you can see that in my

1431
00:39:43.791 --> 00:39:45.708
eye, the bags underneath my eyes.

1432
00:39:45.708 --> 00:39:46.666
But the lighting is OK.

1433
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:48.916
<v James Munns>I have to ask, how much do you have to up

1434
00:39:48.916 --> 00:39:50.458
your glasses cleaning game?

1435
00:39:50.500 --> 00:39:52.375
Like, do you have to get like special

1436
00:39:52.375 --> 00:39:54.416
microfiber and cleaning...?

1437
00:39:54.541 --> 00:39:56.208
<v Amos Wenger>I have a lot of microfiber.

1438
00:39:56.208 --> 00:39:58.625
I own glasses for a long time

1439
00:39:58.625 --> 00:39:59.666
<v James Munns>Because I come in here and I have a

1440
00:39:59.666 --> 00:40:01.166
window behind my monitor.

1441
00:40:01.166 --> 00:40:02.416
And a lot of times I just work in my

1442
00:40:02.416 --> 00:40:03.375
living room, which isn't

1443
00:40:03.375 --> 00:40:04.958
like super directly lit.

1444
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.500
Anytime I come in here and the windows

1445
00:40:06.500 --> 00:40:08.250
open and I get light directly on there,

1446
00:40:08.250 --> 00:40:09.041
I'm like, "Oh, my

1447
00:40:09.041 --> 00:40:11.041
glasses are awful right now!"

1448
00:40:11.041 --> 00:40:12.583
<v Amos Wenger>I have a bunch of microfiber cloths.

1449
00:40:12.583 --> 00:40:15.250
It's just around the guest bedroom.

1450
00:40:15.250 --> 00:40:16.458
Sorry, the studio.

1451
00:40:16.500 --> 00:40:18.333
It's still not enough to have this

1452
00:40:18.333 --> 00:40:19.500
clamshell lighting where I have light

1453
00:40:19.500 --> 00:40:20.916
coming from above and from below.

1454
00:40:20.916 --> 00:40:22.250
So nothing directly in my eyes.

1455
00:40:22.250 --> 00:40:23.125
because I move around.

1456
00:40:23.166 --> 00:40:24.166
I look up, I look down.

1457
00:40:24.166 --> 00:40:25.125
So if I look up, you can

1458
00:40:25.166 --> 00:40:26.375
definitely see the top lights.

1459
00:40:26.375 --> 00:40:27.750
But what you're seeing in that slide on

1460
00:40:27.750 --> 00:40:31.208
the left hand side is the unprocessed raw

1461
00:40:31.208 --> 00:40:32.416
image from the camera.

1462
00:40:32.416 --> 00:40:33.750
Not raw, not unprocessed.

1463
00:40:33.750 --> 00:40:35.166
There's a lot of processing, but like not

1464
00:40:35.166 --> 00:40:36.833
color graded in DaVinci Resolve.

1465
00:40:36.833 --> 00:40:38.416
And on the right hand side, it's just a

1466
00:40:38.416 --> 00:40:41.000
single effect called Despill.

1467
00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.166
And it's designed for green screen.

1468
00:40:43.166 --> 00:40:44.416
When you have a green screen behind you,

1469
00:40:44.416 --> 00:40:45.041
there's light that

1470
00:40:45.041 --> 00:40:46.000
goes on the green screen.

1471
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:46.916
It bounces off of it.

1472
00:40:46.916 --> 00:40:48.250
It becomes green light

1473
00:40:48.250 --> 00:40:50.083
only and it reflects on you.

1474
00:40:50.083 --> 00:40:52.166
And then the green spills onto you.

1475
00:40:52.166 --> 00:40:53.791
And so it's trying to remove that.

1476
00:40:54.083 --> 00:40:55.666
And by doing that, it's actually changing

1477
00:40:55.666 --> 00:40:57.416
the color of the clothes you wear.

1478
00:40:57.625 --> 00:40:59.083
So obviously you cannot wear green.

1479
00:40:59.083 --> 00:41:00.416
But even if you wear something else, it's

1480
00:41:00.416 --> 00:41:01.291
going to become a slightly different

1481
00:41:01.291 --> 00:41:03.000
shade because it thinks it's green from

1482
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:03.791
the green screen when it's

1483
00:41:03.791 --> 00:41:04.833
just the color of your clothing.

1484
00:41:04.833 --> 00:41:06.541
But as you can see, you can still tell

1485
00:41:06.541 --> 00:41:10.208
the shape of the light, but it's much

1486
00:41:10.208 --> 00:41:11.875
less distracting, right?

1487
00:41:11.875 --> 00:41:13.500
It's now kind of skin colored.

1488
00:41:13.541 --> 00:41:14.458
If you're just, I don't

1489
00:41:14.458 --> 00:41:15.458
know, I'm moving around a lot.

1490
00:41:15.458 --> 00:41:16.166
It's very fast.

1491
00:41:16.166 --> 00:41:18.541
It's not as distracting as this big green

1492
00:41:18.541 --> 00:41:19.916
aggressive lighting.

1493
00:41:19.916 --> 00:41:21.416
So I'm really happy with that.

1494
00:41:21.416 --> 00:41:22.458
I thought about it, I

1495
00:41:22.458 --> 00:41:23.166
think two weeks ago.

1496
00:41:23.166 --> 00:41:24.666
I was like, "Hey, there's a Despill now.

1497
00:41:24.666 --> 00:41:25.333
What if it?

1498
00:41:25.333 --> 00:41:26.083
Oh, wow, that's great."

1499
00:41:26.083 --> 00:41:28.083
So with those two things like the light

1500
00:41:28.083 --> 00:41:30.833
placement plus this, I'm fairly happy.

1501
00:41:30.875 --> 00:41:33.916
The next time I have uncontrollable urges

1502
00:41:33.916 --> 00:41:36.375
to spend money, I will get this.

1503
00:41:36.375 --> 00:41:37.791
Well, it's two things.

1504
00:41:37.916 --> 00:41:39.916
<v James Munns>I love when you get distilled just to the

1505
00:41:39.916 --> 00:41:42.833
like, you can tell it's just a Cree LED

1506
00:41:42.833 --> 00:41:44.375
element and then there's a heatsink with

1507
00:41:44.375 --> 00:41:46.500
probably a fan on the back of it.

1508
00:41:46.500 --> 00:41:48.375
And then, yeah, a mount to the...

1509
00:41:48.375 --> 00:41:49.666
<v Amos Wenger>This one is fanless.

1510
00:41:49.666 --> 00:41:50.916
That's why I haven't bought it yet is

1511
00:41:50.916 --> 00:41:52.000
because it's actually expensive.

1512
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:52.833
<v James Munns>Oh, is it fanless?

1513
00:41:52.833 --> 00:41:53.583
OK, then it's probably

1514
00:41:53.666 --> 00:41:55.083
a big chunk of aluminum.

1515
00:41:55.083 --> 00:41:56.083
<v Amos Wenger>This one is fanless.

1516
00:41:56.083 --> 00:41:57.333
It's completely silent.

1517
00:41:57.458 --> 00:41:58.791
This is what I want.

1518
00:41:58.791 --> 00:41:59.791
I don't want-- because when you're

1519
00:41:59.791 --> 00:42:01.458
outside, it doesn't freaking matter.

1520
00:42:01.458 --> 00:42:05.583
The um... ground noise? The base level noise?

1521
00:42:05.583 --> 00:42:06.250
I don't know.

1522
00:42:06.250 --> 00:42:07.208
It's already so high.

1523
00:42:07.208 --> 00:42:08.291
<v James Munns>It'll usually be like high frequency

1524
00:42:08.291 --> 00:42:11.041
transformer noise or fans or you get

1525
00:42:11.041 --> 00:42:13.166
what's called coil whine through

1526
00:42:13.166 --> 00:42:15.625
inductors and stuff like that.

1527
00:42:15.916 --> 00:42:18.125
<v Amos Wenger>So, yeah, because the studio is so small

1528
00:42:18.125 --> 00:42:20.000
because you can hear everything inside of

1529
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.000
there, I have to turn off the AC

1530
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.333
obviously when recording, even though,

1531
00:42:24.333 --> 00:42:27.083
you know, the perch, the shotgun mic is

1532
00:42:27.083 --> 00:42:28.041
sitting right above me.

1533
00:42:28.041 --> 00:42:30.333
I still try to avoid any... I would get one

1534
00:42:30.333 --> 00:42:32.125
of those silence LED protectors, which

1535
00:42:32.125 --> 00:42:33.541
has a Bowen mount.

1536
00:42:33.541 --> 00:42:36.375
And then on that, I would screw in a

1537
00:42:36.375 --> 00:42:38.791
collapsible lantern softbox also by Godox

1538
00:42:38.791 --> 00:42:41.083
that I think it would look great.

1539
00:42:41.083 --> 00:42:42.750
Honestly, it would be like softer

1540
00:42:42.750 --> 00:42:44.875
lighting, but there's

1541
00:42:44.875 --> 00:42:46.291
many things I want to buy.

1542
00:42:46.291 --> 00:42:47.666
But yeah, lighting is important. Now that

1543
00:42:47.666 --> 00:42:49.125
I have this lighting, which

1544
00:42:49.125 --> 00:42:50.416
is very, very close to my face.

1545
00:42:50.458 --> 00:42:51.666
I have to make an effort not

1546
00:42:51.666 --> 00:42:53.000
to look too much up or down.

1547
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:54.375
I don't have the problem anymore where

1548
00:42:54.375 --> 00:42:57.500
the black screen, which is a large piece

1549
00:42:57.500 --> 00:43:00.708
of black clothing behind me, is also lit.

1550
00:43:00.708 --> 00:43:02.458
So I used to have to

1551
00:43:02.458 --> 00:43:04.000
this is a steam de-wrinkler.

1552
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:05.833
You can get one of those for 20 bucks in

1553
00:43:05.833 --> 00:43:08.291
the supermarket, just to get your... if you--

1554
00:43:08.291 --> 00:43:10.000
don't want to iron fully your shirt if

1555
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:10.791
you're traveling, whatever.

1556
00:43:10.791 --> 00:43:11.916
You just de-wrinkle them.

1557
00:43:11.916 --> 00:43:13.125
I used to do that for

1558
00:43:13.125 --> 00:43:15.041
like an hour before shooting.

1559
00:43:15.041 --> 00:43:16.541
Just de-wrinkle my black screen.

1560
00:43:16.541 --> 00:43:18.916
Now I don't have to if you go back to the

1561
00:43:18.916 --> 00:43:20.166
you can't even see the screen.

1562
00:43:20.166 --> 00:43:21.583
I didn't-- I used to play with the levels.

1563
00:43:21.583 --> 00:43:23.416
<v James Munns>It looks green screen almost like you

1564
00:43:23.416 --> 00:43:24.500
green screen to like a

1565
00:43:24.500 --> 00:43:25.750
black background onto it.

1566
00:43:25.750 --> 00:43:27.125
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah, and that's because there's almost

1567
00:43:27.125 --> 00:43:28.791
no light that goes all the way to the

1568
00:43:28.791 --> 00:43:30.500
screen or like compared to the light that

1569
00:43:30.500 --> 00:43:31.708
bounces off of my face.

1570
00:43:31.708 --> 00:43:32.625
It's nothing.

1571
00:43:32.625 --> 00:43:33.333
So I used to have to

1572
00:43:33.333 --> 00:43:34.000
play with the levels a lot.

1573
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:34.958
I could compress like play

1574
00:43:34.958 --> 00:43:36.500
with gamma and gain and stuff.

1575
00:43:36.500 --> 00:43:38.625
Just exposure, but only for the dark

1576
00:43:38.625 --> 00:43:40.083
parts in DaVinci Resolve.

1577
00:43:40.083 --> 00:43:41.833
But now I don't have to! Just the lighting

1578
00:43:41.833 --> 00:43:42.958
gets you there and I

1579
00:43:42.958 --> 00:43:43.708
didn't want to leave it.

1580
00:43:43.708 --> 00:43:45.333
It took me, I guess, six

1581
00:43:45.333 --> 00:43:46.500
years to learn the lesson.

1582
00:43:46.500 --> 00:43:48.416
Also, if we go back to the the photo of

1583
00:43:48.416 --> 00:43:49.500
my setup, where is it?

1584
00:43:50.291 --> 00:43:51.458
Yeah, this photo.

1585
00:43:51.458 --> 00:43:53.666
I don't know if-- it's hard to tell...

1586
00:43:53.833 --> 00:43:55.708
So you can see that there's a- there's a

1587
00:43:55.708 --> 00:43:57.750
boom pole for the shotgun mic, right?

1588
00:43:57.750 --> 00:43:58.416
There's a stand.

1589
00:43:58.416 --> 00:43:59.125
It goes...

1590
00:43:59.125 --> 00:43:59.958
It's upright.

1591
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.125
And then there's something that can

1592
00:44:01.125 --> 00:44:04.333
rotate in the X axis,

1593
00:44:04.333 --> 00:44:05.666
so that it's bent a little bit.

1594
00:44:05.666 --> 00:44:07.791
It allows the mic to move away from the

1595
00:44:07.791 --> 00:44:09.375
stand so that it sits above me.

1596
00:44:09.416 --> 00:44:10.208
Right? This stand cannot be

1597
00:44:10.208 --> 00:44:11.291
physically where I am.

1598
00:44:11.291 --> 00:44:12.208
It has to be offset.

1599
00:44:12.208 --> 00:44:14.083
So it offsets the mic to be above me.

1600
00:44:14.083 --> 00:44:16.083
That's one of the two of those kind of

1601
00:44:16.083 --> 00:44:17.125
stands that I have that

1602
00:44:17.125 --> 00:44:18.583
I think is called a pole.

1603
00:44:18.583 --> 00:44:19.875
And then I have another one.

1604
00:44:19.875 --> 00:44:21.083
<v James Munns>I've always heard this is just like C

1605
00:44:21.083 --> 00:44:22.875
stands like they're just the like what

1606
00:44:22.875 --> 00:44:24.375
you use for everything.

1607
00:44:24.375 --> 00:44:25.416
<v Amos Wenger>I need one of these, yeah yeah.

1608
00:44:25.416 --> 00:44:26.875
But instead I have this thing that just

1609
00:44:26.875 --> 00:44:28.333
bends and it can offset it.

1610
00:44:28.333 --> 00:44:30.000
But if you look at the top light, it's on

1611
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.416
one of those as well.

1612
00:44:31.416 --> 00:44:32.458
But there's usually there's a

1613
00:44:32.458 --> 00:44:33.250
counterweight because

1614
00:44:33.250 --> 00:44:34.500
the light is pretty heavy.

1615
00:44:34.541 --> 00:44:37.458
So you would have the light on one end

1616
00:44:37.458 --> 00:44:39.500
and then the other end you would have some

1617
00:44:39.500 --> 00:44:40.416
just a bag of weights.

1618
00:44:40.416 --> 00:44:41.291
I don't know that keeps

1619
00:44:41.291 --> 00:44:43.041
it in balance, but I don't.

1620
00:44:43.250 --> 00:44:44.208
So it's actually

1621
00:44:44.208 --> 00:44:46.333
resting on my teleprompter.

1622
00:44:46.333 --> 00:44:47.458
Otherwise it would fall down.

1623
00:44:47.458 --> 00:44:48.458
<v James Munns>Oh nice, yeah.

1624
00:44:48.583 --> 00:44:49.500
<v Amos Wenger>It's terrible.

1625
00:44:49.500 --> 00:44:51.333
I don't sleep well at night because I'm

1626
00:44:51.333 --> 00:44:52.791
like, "Everything's going to collapse.

1627
00:44:52.833 --> 00:44:54.125
It's going to break my key light.

1628
00:44:54.125 --> 00:44:55.125
It's going to be terrible."

1629
00:44:55.208 --> 00:44:56.791
Lastly, we have media management.

1630
00:44:56.791 --> 00:45:00.708
When I use the Zoom H4n Black

1631
00:45:00.708 --> 00:45:02.208
Pro Recorder when I

1632
00:45:02.208 --> 00:45:03.500
shot directly on camera, etc.

1633
00:45:03.500 --> 00:45:05.708
It was SD card mania.

1634
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.583
You just- you're always running around

1635
00:45:07.583 --> 00:45:09.500
copying files on and off of SD cards.

1636
00:45:09.750 --> 00:45:11.625
It's always so freaking slow because

1637
00:45:11.625 --> 00:45:13.708
they're spec'd to be just fast enough

1638
00:45:13.708 --> 00:45:15.541
that you can record video in real time.

1639
00:45:15.541 --> 00:45:16.416
And that's it.

1640
00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:18.500
So when you're copying an hour's worth of

1641
00:45:18.500 --> 00:45:20.166
footage, it could take up to an hour if

1642
00:45:20.166 --> 00:45:22.083
that's the category of

1643
00:45:22.083 --> 00:45:23.250
memory cards that you got.

1644
00:45:23.250 --> 00:45:24.291
When I started shooting on iPhone

1645
00:45:24.291 --> 00:45:25.916
instead, because I just noticed, "Oh, the

1646
00:45:25.916 --> 00:45:27.541
iPhone actually just looks better and I

1647
00:45:27.541 --> 00:45:28.416
don't need to do any set

1648
00:45:28.416 --> 00:45:29.458
up whatsoever.

1649
00:45:29.500 --> 00:45:32.208
And it's less trouble and it's easier to

1650
00:45:32.208 --> 00:45:33.333
control remotely as well.

1651
00:45:33.333 --> 00:45:34.375
That was a big point.

1652
00:45:34.375 --> 00:45:36.250
I started AirDropping files to myself.

1653
00:45:36.291 --> 00:45:37.708
But you know, the problem with AirDrop?

1654
00:45:37.708 --> 00:45:38.750
it's great and super fast

1655
00:45:38.750 --> 00:45:39.541
over Wi-Fi and everything.

1656
00:45:39.791 --> 00:45:41.750
But I think it needs an initial Bluetooth

1657
00:45:41.750 --> 00:45:42.916
connection just to

1658
00:45:42.916 --> 00:45:44.083
say, "Oh, OK, I'm near you.

1659
00:45:44.083 --> 00:45:45.041
We can do

1660
00:45:45.041 --> 00:45:46.083
Wi-Fi direct or whatever."

1661
00:45:46.125 --> 00:45:49.875
And my studio is just out of range of my

1662
00:45:49.875 --> 00:45:51.166
Mac studio downstairs.

1663
00:45:51.166 --> 00:45:52.958
So I had to physically remove the iPhone

1664
00:45:52.958 --> 00:45:54.916
I use as a camera, step downstairs a

1665
00:45:54.916 --> 00:45:56.375
little bit and then it would start the

1666
00:45:56.375 --> 00:45:57.750
AirDrop file transfer.

1667
00:45:57.750 --> 00:45:59.291
So kind of defeated the purpose.

1668
00:45:59.291 --> 00:46:02.750
I tried saving to iCloud, but that syncs

1669
00:46:02.750 --> 00:46:03.625
whenever it wants to.

1670
00:46:03.625 --> 00:46:05.208
Sometimes it's instant, sometimes not.

1671
00:46:05.208 --> 00:46:06.375
It's not really progress

1672
00:46:06.375 --> 00:46:07.375
indicators or whatever.

1673
00:46:07.375 --> 00:46:08.500
I just lost so much time

1674
00:46:08.500 --> 00:46:09.875
waiting for things to transfer.

1675
00:46:09.875 --> 00:46:10.375
I don't know.

1676
00:46:10.375 --> 00:46:11.500
Sometimes I gave up, took the phone with

1677
00:46:11.500 --> 00:46:12.208
me, stepped downstairs

1678
00:46:12.208 --> 00:46:13.166
with it, plugged it in.

1679
00:46:13.166 --> 00:46:15.500
And then the wire transfer is slower than

1680
00:46:15.500 --> 00:46:18.250
the wire- the wireless, because the wire

1681
00:46:18.250 --> 00:46:21.791
only uses USB 2 speeds and... terrible.

1682
00:46:21.791 --> 00:46:23.625
<v James Munns>I think only like the current very high

1683
00:46:23.625 --> 00:46:25.500
end models are USB 3 and everything else

1684
00:46:25.500 --> 00:46:27.333
is still 400 megabit.

1685
00:46:27.333 --> 00:46:27.750
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah.

1686
00:46:27.750 --> 00:46:28.083
Yeah.

1687
00:46:28.083 --> 00:46:28.666
<v James Munns>Basically.

1688
00:46:28.708 --> 00:46:29.916
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah, that's part of the reason why I didn't

1689
00:46:29.916 --> 00:46:31.458
bother with iPhone 16.

1690
00:46:31.458 --> 00:46:33.083
We'll see what the 17 brings.

1691
00:46:33.083 --> 00:46:36.041
I think it was about like the chip on the

1692
00:46:36.041 --> 00:46:37.958
iPhone is not new enough or something.

1693
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:39.166
<v James Munns>There's the marketing reason and then

1694
00:46:39.166 --> 00:46:40.250
there's whatever they decided because

1695
00:46:40.250 --> 00:46:42.916
like that was the thing about um... the jump

1696
00:46:42.916 --> 00:46:47.000
from USB 2 or USB high speed to USB 3 or

1697
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:49.458
USB super speed is you need more pairs.

1698
00:46:49.458 --> 00:46:50.875
It basically goes from a single

1699
00:46:50.875 --> 00:46:52.000
differential pair to

1700
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.250
multiple differential pairs.

1701
00:46:53.250 --> 00:46:55.708
And so if--was it, Thunderbolt has always

1702
00:46:55.708 --> 00:46:57.375
been USB high speed.

1703
00:46:57.375 --> 00:46:59.416
So it's only had one data pair, which

1704
00:46:59.416 --> 00:47:01.166
means they've just been designing their

1705
00:47:01.166 --> 00:47:02.666
chips for so long to only have a single

1706
00:47:02.666 --> 00:47:03.750
data pair coming into it.

1707
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:05.500
So you can't just do a

1708
00:47:05.500 --> 00:47:07.791
single pair USB super speed.

1709
00:47:07.791 --> 00:47:09.875
You need the second differential pair to

1710
00:47:09.875 --> 00:47:10.666
go up to even the bare

1711
00:47:10.666 --> 00:47:13.333
minimum USB super speed setup.

1712
00:47:13.333 --> 00:47:15.708
<v Amos Wenger>So now that I only use iPhones for

1713
00:47:15.708 --> 00:47:17.958
everything, I have one camera iPhone, one

1714
00:47:17.958 --> 00:47:19.000
monitor iPhone and

1715
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:20.916
one teleprompter iPhone.

1716
00:47:21.166 --> 00:47:21.958
I just put everything

1717
00:47:21.958 --> 00:47:22.916
on Blackmagic cloud.

1718
00:47:22.916 --> 00:47:23.833
So Blackmagic are the

1719
00:47:23.833 --> 00:47:25.791
makers of DaVinci Resolve.

1720
00:47:25.833 --> 00:47:27.458
My very limited understanding of the

1721
00:47:27.458 --> 00:47:30.333
company's history is they make expensive

1722
00:47:30.333 --> 00:47:31.625
Hollywood grade

1723
00:47:31.625 --> 00:47:33.708
hardware for video production.

1724
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.375
They sell hardware that's more expensive

1725
00:47:36.375 --> 00:47:38.500
than all the computers I own combined.

1726
00:47:38.750 --> 00:47:40.458
And I have too many computers.

1727
00:47:40.458 --> 00:47:43.250
And as a bonus, they also made a freely

1728
00:47:43.250 --> 00:47:45.250
available color grading software.

1729
00:47:45.250 --> 00:47:46.833
And then it actually turned into a

1730
00:47:46.833 --> 00:47:48.833
nonlinear editing software solution that

1731
00:47:48.833 --> 00:47:51.583
rivals Adobe Premiere and everything.

1732
00:47:51.625 --> 00:47:52.166
And then they started

1733
00:47:52.166 --> 00:47:53.416
selling a studio version of that.

1734
00:47:53.416 --> 00:47:54.541
I don't know exactly what order things

1735
00:47:54.541 --> 00:47:56.708
happened in, but they had everything to

1736
00:47:56.708 --> 00:47:58.000
succeed except the

1737
00:47:58.000 --> 00:47:59.666
freaking cloud media storage.

1738
00:47:59.666 --> 00:48:01.666
When I tried working with another person

1739
00:48:01.666 --> 00:48:03.416
to help with editing my videos, I think

1740
00:48:03.416 --> 00:48:06.166
only a year ago, two years ago, we had to

1741
00:48:06.166 --> 00:48:09.041
ferry files on Dropbox or whatever.

1742
00:48:09.041 --> 00:48:10.291
It was-- it was so annoying.

1743
00:48:10.291 --> 00:48:12.166
Now they finally have- it's in beta still-

1744
00:48:12.166 --> 00:48:14.083
but you finally have Blackmagic cloud.

1745
00:48:14.125 --> 00:48:15.500
So not only do you have the thing that

1746
00:48:15.500 --> 00:48:17.208
you've always had, which is the way

1747
00:48:17.208 --> 00:48:18.500
project libraries work in DaVinci

1748
00:48:18.500 --> 00:48:21.166
Resolve, they're just Postgres databases.

1749
00:48:21.166 --> 00:48:22.625
So even if you install it just locally,

1750
00:48:22.625 --> 00:48:23.833
they're running Postgres.

1751
00:48:23.833 --> 00:48:25.875
And so you can pay them five bucks a

1752
00:48:25.875 --> 00:48:28.250
month to have a library hosted by them,

1753
00:48:28.250 --> 00:48:29.833
or you can run your own Postgres server,

1754
00:48:29.833 --> 00:48:31.541
which is what I ended up doing, which is

1755
00:48:31.541 --> 00:48:32.291
a pain in the butt

1756
00:48:32.291 --> 00:48:33.250
because you have to secure it.

1757
00:48:33.250 --> 00:48:34.291
Because if you just open a Postgres

1758
00:48:34.291 --> 00:48:34.833
database on the

1759
00:48:34.833 --> 00:48:36.750
Internet, people will get in.

1760
00:48:36.791 --> 00:48:38.166
But yeah, it's just a Postgres database.

1761
00:48:38.166 --> 00:48:39.500
So it locks timeline with someone's

1762
00:48:39.500 --> 00:48:41.250
editing and it's designed for that

1763
00:48:41.333 --> 00:48:43.000
collaborative workflow from the beginning.

1764
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:44.166
But what's new is that they

1765
00:48:44.166 --> 00:48:46.375
can also now store media files.

1766
00:48:46.375 --> 00:48:48.000
And obviously, they're pricing it,

1767
00:48:48.083 --> 00:48:49.750
selling it as a premium, as everyone does

1768
00:48:49.750 --> 00:48:51.125
with the cloud storage.

1769
00:48:51.125 --> 00:48:52.875
But I think what am I paying?

1770
00:48:52.875 --> 00:48:55.458
I get 500 gigabytes for 10

1771
00:48:55.458 --> 00:48:57.500
bucks a month, 15 bucks a month? I don't know

1772
00:48:57.500 --> 00:49:00.041
<v James Munns>It's below the cost of thinking of it.

1773
00:49:00.041 --> 00:49:01.333
You know, like if you were just a

1774
00:49:01.333 --> 00:49:02.541
hobbyist, it might be different.

1775
00:49:02.541 --> 00:49:04.541
But if you do it professionally, it's like...

1776
00:49:04.541 --> 00:49:05.708
<v Amos Wenger>As a company expense, it's nothing.

1777
00:49:05.708 --> 00:49:06.875
<v James Munns>I won't even think about it.

1778
00:49:06.875 --> 00:49:07.416
<v Amos Wenger>Exactly.

1779
00:49:07.416 --> 00:49:08.500
So I tried it. Ahh, we'll

1780
00:49:08.500 --> 00:49:09.041
We'll see if the

1781
00:49:09.041 --> 00:49:10.208
experience is good or whatever.

1782
00:49:10.208 --> 00:49:11.583
It is amazing.

1783
00:49:11.583 --> 00:49:12.416
It is amazeballs.

1784
00:49:12.541 --> 00:49:13.416
You have Blackmagic

1785
00:49:13.416 --> 00:49:15.000
camera running on your iPhones.

1786
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.666
You shoot something, you stop shooting,

1787
00:49:16.666 --> 00:49:18.250
and it's instantly there.

1788
00:49:18.250 --> 00:49:20.000
If you have the project open in a

1789
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.833
computer somewhere, I did a demo, you may

1790
00:49:21.833 --> 00:49:23.500
have seen it on my Discord server.

1791
00:49:23.500 --> 00:49:24.958
You stop shooting, it uploads immediately

1792
00:49:24.958 --> 00:49:26.041
the proxy version, which is a low

1793
00:49:26.041 --> 00:49:28.125
resolution version of what you just shot.

1794
00:49:28.125 --> 00:49:29.000
It does that first.

1795
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:30.291
So you have the assets, you can drag it,

1796
00:49:30.291 --> 00:49:31.750
you can start playing around with it.

1797
00:49:31.750 --> 00:49:32.666
And then the original, the full

1798
00:49:32.666 --> 00:49:33.958
resolution original is

1799
00:49:33.958 --> 00:49:35.375
synchronizing after that.

1800
00:49:35.458 --> 00:49:37.041
And it takes care of everything.

1801
00:49:37.041 --> 00:49:38.583
You can lose the entire project.

1802
00:49:38.583 --> 00:49:39.333
It's cloud.

1803
00:49:39.333 --> 00:49:40.458
You can synchronize it

1804
00:49:40.458 --> 00:49:41.416
from wherever you want.

1805
00:49:41.416 --> 00:49:43.541
You can share with some editor and have

1806
00:49:43.541 --> 00:49:46.208
them sync only the proxy so that even if

1807
00:49:46.208 --> 00:49:47.791
they have a crappy computer with not a

1808
00:49:47.791 --> 00:49:49.583
lot of disk space, they can still work on

1809
00:49:49.583 --> 00:49:50.458
cutting and everything.

1810
00:49:50.500 --> 00:49:52.000
<v James Munns>So a lot of that rough cut of editing is

1811
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.875
only done with like the low-fi video

1812
00:49:53.875 --> 00:49:55.750
because you don't need to be doing 4K

1813
00:49:55.750 --> 00:49:57.750
assets just to like crop out

1814
00:49:57.750 --> 00:49:59.750
the coughs and um's and takes.

1815
00:49:59.750 --> 00:50:00.166
Yeah.

1816
00:50:00.166 --> 00:50:01.625
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah, you can do a separate pass for

1817
00:50:01.625 --> 00:50:02.708
color grading, a separate

1818
00:50:02.708 --> 00:50:03.916
pass for special effects.

1819
00:50:04.083 --> 00:50:04.916
It's amazing.

1820
00:50:04.916 --> 00:50:06.416
This is the camera iPhone.

1821
00:50:06.416 --> 00:50:07.375
It's an iPhone 12 Pro

1822
00:50:07.375 --> 00:50:08.750
Max that I bought recently.

1823
00:50:08.750 --> 00:50:10.000
I used to use my personal iPhone, but

1824
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:11.500
it's just it's awkward getting a call in

1825
00:50:11.500 --> 00:50:12.833
the middle of a shoot and having to like

1826
00:50:12.833 --> 00:50:14.833
disassemble your entire setup just to

1827
00:50:14.833 --> 00:50:15.708
answer like, "I'm sorry, I

1828
00:50:15.708 --> 00:50:17.583
was unhooking my camera."

1829
00:50:17.625 --> 00:50:18.666
It has this very custom.

1830
00:50:18.875 --> 00:50:20.750
You might be wondering why there's blue

1831
00:50:20.750 --> 00:50:23.000
tape around the little grip.

1832
00:50:23.083 --> 00:50:24.708
That's because if it's not there because

1833
00:50:24.708 --> 00:50:26.500
it's metallic, it's detected as touch.

1834
00:50:26.541 --> 00:50:27.083
<v James Munns>Oh, yeah.

1835
00:50:27.416 --> 00:50:30.208
<v Amos Wenger>So I had to make it distant enough.

1836
00:50:30.208 --> 00:50:31.875
<v James Munns>Put enough insulation in between the two of them.

1837
00:50:31.875 --> 00:50:32.333
<v Amos Wenger>Yep.

1838
00:50:32.583 --> 00:50:33.375
Why 12 Pro Max?

1839
00:50:33.375 --> 00:50:35.458
It has a nice camera and it's... it's

1840
00:50:35.458 --> 00:50:38.000
actually very accessible price wise.

1841
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:40.500
Again, we'll have the total in a second.

1842
00:50:40.500 --> 00:50:42.000
By comparison, when I wanted to go the

1843
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:46.000
full DSLR or mirrorless way with like an

1844
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.250
actual camera looking camera like the

1845
00:50:48.250 --> 00:50:51.958
DC-GH5 from Lumix, I bought an Atomos Ninja V

1846
00:50:51.958 --> 00:50:54.291
which is this little monitor slash

1847
00:50:54.291 --> 00:50:57.333
recorder thingy that you can screw on top

1848
00:50:57.333 --> 00:50:58.916
of an existing camera

1849
00:50:58.916 --> 00:51:00.166
with a cold shoe mount.

1850
00:51:00.208 --> 00:51:01.791
And then you connect them over HDMI and

1851
00:51:01.791 --> 00:51:03.708
you get this nice little HDR display and

1852
00:51:03.708 --> 00:51:05.500
it records directly onto SSD, which was

1853
00:51:05.500 --> 00:51:06.750
one of the things I was really looking

1854
00:51:06.750 --> 00:51:07.750
forward to because you

1855
00:51:07.750 --> 00:51:08.958
have these little cards.

1856
00:51:08.958 --> 00:51:11.250
You you mount the SSD into the card and

1857
00:51:11.250 --> 00:51:14.583
then you can just slide it in the Ninja V

1858
00:51:14.583 --> 00:51:16.416
and then you slide it out and you connect

1859
00:51:16.416 --> 00:51:18.791
it directly over USB to your laptop.

1860
00:51:18.791 --> 00:51:19.541
It was very fast.

1861
00:51:19.541 --> 00:51:21.250
You can use it as your main disk if you

1862
00:51:21.250 --> 00:51:23.041
like living dangerously and you get very

1863
00:51:23.041 --> 00:51:24.083
fast transfer speed.

1864
00:51:24.083 --> 00:51:26.000
It was it was kind of ideal, except this

1865
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.416
thing runs super freaking hot.

1866
00:51:28.416 --> 00:51:31.000
It hurts to just touch the stop button.

1867
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.708
It gets so hot and it's so expensive and

1868
00:51:33.708 --> 00:51:34.791
I really didn't need it.

1869
00:51:34.791 --> 00:51:36.208
And I spent so much money on it for

1870
00:51:36.208 --> 00:51:37.125
nothing and you still

1871
00:51:37.125 --> 00:51:38.708
can't trigger it remotely.

1872
00:51:38.708 --> 00:51:39.083
I don't know.

1873
00:51:39.083 --> 00:51:40.333
You need- you need to buy more stuff.

1874
00:51:40.333 --> 00:51:42.041
You need to buy into their- their own

1875
00:51:42.041 --> 00:51:44.333
cloud, which they sell also.

1876
00:51:44.333 --> 00:51:46.791
Um... Yeah, I ended up selling that.

1877
00:51:46.791 --> 00:51:47.625
I'm not using it anymore.

1878
00:51:47.625 --> 00:51:48.375
I still have the camera.

1879
00:51:48.375 --> 00:51:49.458
I don't have the Ninja V anymore.

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00:51:49.500 --> 00:51:52.041
<v James Munns>So the takeaway is 'three iPhones' sounds

1881
00:51:52.041 --> 00:51:55.000
kind of expensive until you buy 20 pieces

1882
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:56.958
of the wrong gear and realize--

1883
00:51:56.958 --> 00:51:58.875
<v Amos Wenger>We're literally one slide away from the total.

1884
00:51:58.875 --> 00:51:59.791
But yeah, this is the--

1885
00:51:59.791 --> 00:52:01.375
<v James Munns>Oh ok. Yeah, yeah.

1886
00:52:01.375 --> 00:52:02.916
<v Amos Wenger>This is the the monitor iPhone.

1887
00:52:03.416 --> 00:52:05.250
It's just showing me what the camera sees

1888
00:52:05.250 --> 00:52:07.041
so I can do all the adjustments.

1889
00:52:07.041 --> 00:52:07.625
I don't need--

1890
00:52:07.625 --> 00:52:09.250
I used to think, "Oh, I need to pay

1891
00:52:09.250 --> 00:52:11.000
someone to help me.." on the list of things

1892
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:12.791
that made me lose footage.

1893
00:52:13.083 --> 00:52:13.791
There's something in the

1894
00:52:13.791 --> 00:52:15.000
frame that I just didn't see.

1895
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:16.291
There's some-- like I set up the shot.

1896
00:52:16.291 --> 00:52:17.666
I go behind the camera.

1897
00:52:17.666 --> 00:52:20.166
There's something... here I can check now

1898
00:52:20.166 --> 00:52:21.166
and then that the shot

1899
00:52:21.166 --> 00:52:22.541
looks exactly the way I want it.

1900
00:52:22.541 --> 00:52:24.791
I could do the white balance, the ISO,

1901
00:52:24.791 --> 00:52:26.041
the everything and

1902
00:52:26.041 --> 00:52:27.166
trigger the recording and stop.

1903
00:52:27.166 --> 00:52:29.708
And yeah, just it's not having a monitor.

1904
00:52:29.708 --> 00:52:32.125
And this is an iPhone 12 mini.

1905
00:52:32.208 --> 00:52:32.833
That's very small.

1906
00:52:33.250 --> 00:52:34.041
Don't need something big.

1907
00:52:34.208 --> 00:52:36.041
And this is the total of like two setups.

1908
00:52:36.125 --> 00:52:38.916
On the left we have the DC-GH5 and nice

1909
00:52:38.916 --> 00:52:40.458
camera, which is already not nice.

1910
00:52:40.458 --> 00:52:41.500
You should get another one now.

1911
00:52:41.500 --> 00:52:43.125
The Ninja V, the camera is

1912
00:52:43.125 --> 00:52:44.083
around twelve hundred.

1913
00:52:44.083 --> 00:52:46.583
The Ninja V is around five hundred and

1914
00:52:46.583 --> 00:52:47.416
all the accessories you need for the

1915
00:52:47.416 --> 00:52:49.000
Ninja V, because you need a good SSD for

1916
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:50.333
that, just like you need a

1917
00:52:50.333 --> 00:52:52.333
good SD card to record video.

1918
00:52:52.333 --> 00:52:53.375
And those don't come cheap.

1919
00:52:53.375 --> 00:52:55.208
They're like data center SSDs.

1920
00:52:55.208 --> 00:52:56.416
I had to order them special from

1921
00:52:56.416 --> 00:52:57.250
somewhere and wait

1922
00:52:57.250 --> 00:52:57.916
two weeks for delivery.

1923
00:52:57.916 --> 00:52:58.791
It was really bad.

1924
00:52:58.833 --> 00:53:01.041
So the total for all of that comes to

1925
00:53:01.041 --> 00:53:02.875
2,078 Euros and

1926
00:53:02.875 --> 00:53:05.083
three iPhones comes to under nine hundred

1927
00:53:05.083 --> 00:53:06.791
because I bought the iPhone XR in

1928
00:53:06.791 --> 00:53:08.500
2023 for 250.

1929
00:53:08.500 --> 00:53:09.958
I bought the 12 mini in

1930
00:53:09.958 --> 00:53:12.541
2024 for 270 and I bought the 12

1931
00:53:12.541 --> 00:53:14.708
Pro Max, the like the best iPhone they

1932
00:53:14.708 --> 00:53:16.833
did, but four generations behind for

1933
00:53:16.833 --> 00:53:18.458
under four hundred Euros.

1934
00:53:18.458 --> 00:53:20.166
So 377 Euros

1935
00:53:20.166 --> 00:53:21.333
for the total of just

1936
00:53:21.333 --> 00:53:22.375
under nine hundred Euros.

1937
00:53:22.375 --> 00:53:23.500
And you get a really nice setup.

1938
00:53:23.500 --> 00:53:25.500
I didn't include all the clamps and hooks

1939
00:53:25.500 --> 00:53:27.083
and stands and all the things you need to

1940
00:53:27.083 --> 00:53:29.166
make everything go together and the

1941
00:53:29.166 --> 00:53:31.000
teleprompter, which was probably forty

1942
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:32.958
bucks because it's a mobile phone

1943
00:53:32.958 --> 00:53:34.458
teleprompter and not a real one.

1944
00:53:34.458 --> 00:53:35.083
And you get a really,

1945
00:53:35.083 --> 00:53:36.333
really, really nice setup.

1946
00:53:36.500 --> 00:53:37.750
<v James Munns>I would say how far away are you with

1947
00:53:37.750 --> 00:53:38.416
just this because you

1948
00:53:38.416 --> 00:53:39.250
still need the light.

1949
00:53:39.250 --> 00:53:40.541
I mean, it's fair because you need the

1950
00:53:40.541 --> 00:53:41.541
same thing for both of them, but you

1951
00:53:41.541 --> 00:53:42.750
still need the lights and

1952
00:53:42.750 --> 00:53:44.375
you probably want the mic.

1953
00:53:44.375 --> 00:53:44.958
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah.

1954
00:53:44.958 --> 00:53:46.041
Yeah, I didn't include the things you would

1955
00:53:46.041 --> 00:53:46.916
need either way--

1956
00:53:46.916 --> 00:53:47.500
<v James Munns>or how --

1957
00:53:47.500 --> 00:53:48.166
<v Amos Wenger>The entire setup?

1958
00:53:48.166 --> 00:53:49.791
<v James Munns>Close to being good is the mic?

1959
00:53:49.791 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Amos Wenger>From an iPhone?

1960
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:51.500
<v James Munns>Yeah.

1961
00:53:51.500 --> 00:53:52.166
<v Amos Wenger>I wouldn't use it.

1962
00:53:52.208 --> 00:53:52.708
<v James Munns>Oh OK.

1963
00:53:52.750 --> 00:53:53.625
<v Amos Wenger>But I wouldn't use it because it's

1964
00:53:53.625 --> 00:53:55.166
getting the-- it depends

1965
00:53:55.208 --> 00:53:56.708
if the room is treated... I don't know...

1966
00:53:56.708 --> 00:53:59.083
No, I would get I would get a DJI

1967
00:53:59.083 --> 00:54:01.166
wireless thingy and just clip it here and

1968
00:54:01.166 --> 00:54:02.541
be done with it. To start with,

1969
00:54:02.541 --> 00:54:04.458
it would be perfectly acceptable. Because

1970
00:54:04.458 --> 00:54:05.416
you can you can move around

1971
00:54:05.416 --> 00:54:06.250
like YouTubers do that a lot.

1972
00:54:06.250 --> 00:54:06.916
They move around.

1973
00:54:06.916 --> 00:54:07.625
They do a little sketch.

1974
00:54:07.625 --> 00:54:09.000
They have a green screen in some corner.

1975
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:10.916
You can also turn the RØDE

1976
00:54:10.916 --> 00:54:12.750
Wireless Go II, they have this--

1977
00:54:12.750 --> 00:54:13.916
You can turn it into an interview mic so

1978
00:54:13.916 --> 00:54:15.333
they give you a handle.

1979
00:54:15.333 --> 00:54:16.208
<v James Munns>Yeah, it's like a stick

1980
00:54:16.208 --> 00:54:17.291
that you clip it onto it.

1981
00:54:17.291 --> 00:54:19.000
Yeah, we saw that and

1982
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:19.791
it looked like--

1983
00:54:19.791 --> 00:54:21.041
<v Amos Wenger>You could probably make your own stick.

1984
00:54:21.125 --> 00:54:22.291
<v James Munns>Yeah yeah yeah, exactly.

1985
00:54:22.375 --> 00:54:23.958
<v Amanda Majorowicz>Speaking of RØDE, I was not

1986
00:54:23.958 --> 00:54:25.375
correct and you were correct.

1987
00:54:25.375 --> 00:54:27.000
It's Australia, not New Zealand.

1988
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:27.875
<v Amos Wenger>Yes!

1989
00:54:29.833 --> 00:54:30.541
So that's 1-0.

1990
00:54:30.541 --> 00:54:32.291
Are we doing the ...

1991
00:54:32.291 --> 00:54:34.916
quiz trivia nights at SDR?

1992
00:54:35.541 --> 00:54:35.916
Cool.

1993
00:54:35.916 --> 00:54:36.375
<v James Munns>There you go.

1994
00:54:36.375 --> 00:54:37.708
<v Amos Wenger>Anyway, that's my TED talk.

1995
00:54:37.708 --> 00:54:39.416
I'm so freaking pleased with all this

1996
00:54:39.416 --> 00:54:41.000
because I spent so much time

1997
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:42.375
iterating and so much money.

1998
00:54:42.708 --> 00:54:44.291
I have so many useless things to sell

1999
00:54:44.291 --> 00:54:46.666
now, but I'm afraid of having people come

2000
00:54:46.666 --> 00:54:47.750
to my house to buy them.

2001
00:54:47.750 --> 00:54:49.375
I'm going to get hijacked.

2002
00:54:49.625 --> 00:54:51.000
<v James Munns>It's one of those like I was thinking I

2003
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:52.333
was like, "Oh, this is this

2004
00:54:52.333 --> 00:54:53.500
is real into like production.

2005
00:54:53.500 --> 00:54:55.083
This is very different than the normal

2006
00:54:55.083 --> 00:54:57.250
stuff that we do about like the software

2007
00:54:57.250 --> 00:54:58.500
libraries and stuff we write."

2008
00:54:58.500 --> 00:55:00.916
But it's your-- it's the same thing like we

2009
00:55:00.916 --> 00:55:01.625
are building like

2010
00:55:01.625 --> 00:55:02.833
software stuff for our job.

2011
00:55:02.833 --> 00:55:04.625
But as someone who records video and

2012
00:55:04.625 --> 00:55:07.041
produces video, this is the same sausage

2013
00:55:07.041 --> 00:55:08.750
talk, talking about how the sausage is

2014
00:55:08.750 --> 00:55:10.041
made and things like that and the tools

2015
00:55:10.041 --> 00:55:10.875
you use and what you've

2016
00:55:10.875 --> 00:55:12.041
had to build up around it.

2017
00:55:12.041 --> 00:55:14.166
So it's interesting to see because you're

2018
00:55:14.166 --> 00:55:17.291
someone who does video edited content for

2019
00:55:17.291 --> 00:55:19.875
technical topics, how close

2020
00:55:19.875 --> 00:55:21.458
it is to the same like process.

2021
00:55:21.500 --> 00:55:23.916
But it's just all physical components

2022
00:55:23.916 --> 00:55:25.541
rather than software components.

2023
00:55:25.541 --> 00:55:26.500
<v Amos Wenger>We haven't touched the

2024
00:55:26.500 --> 00:55:27.791
editing process at all.

2025
00:55:27.791 --> 00:55:29.875
Again, I've gone through so many

2026
00:55:29.875 --> 00:55:30.666
different revisions.

2027
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:32.791
I've gotten sick of DaVinci Resolve,

2028
00:55:32.791 --> 00:55:34.291
try to move to different software.

2029
00:55:34.291 --> 00:55:36.750
Saw that it was probably even worse elsewhere.

2030
00:55:36.750 --> 00:55:38.625
I started like doing my own presets and

2031
00:55:38.625 --> 00:55:40.125
stuff like those macros.

2032
00:55:40.125 --> 00:55:41.000
You can do-- there is so much

2033
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:42.083
you can do with DaVinci Resolve.

2034
00:55:42.083 --> 00:55:43.625
It's intimidating how much you can do.

2035
00:55:43.625 --> 00:55:45.291
But yeah, that's that's it.

2036
00:55:45.291 --> 00:55:47.208
I'm sorry for how long it is.

2037
00:55:47.208 --> 00:55:48.458
And/or you're welcome.

2038
00:55:48.458 --> 00:55:49.458
<v James Munns>Well, we'll let you get back to your

2039
00:55:49.458 --> 00:55:50.458
iPhones because I know you're in the

2040
00:55:50.458 --> 00:55:52.875
middle of recording stuff right now.

2041
00:55:52.875 --> 00:55:54.166
So you get to go back and

2042
00:55:54.166 --> 00:55:55.583
keep your iPhones company

2043
00:55:55.583 --> 00:55:56.708
<v Amos Wenger>in one of my videos.

2044
00:55:56.708 --> 00:55:58.708
If I sound really tired in the middle,

2045
00:55:58.708 --> 00:55:59.708
suddenly it's because I

2046
00:55:59.708 --> 00:56:01.250
stopped to record the podcast.

2047
00:56:02.500 --> 00:56:03.208
<v James Munns>Very cool.

2048
00:56:03.833 --> 00:56:04.583
<v Amanda Majorowicz>I enjoyed it.

2049
00:56:04.583 --> 00:56:05.208
Thank you.

2050
00:56:05.250 --> 00:56:05.625
<v Amos Wenger>Aww...

2051
00:56:05.625 --> 00:56:06.291
<v Amanda Majorowicz>Very good.

2052
00:56:06.291 --> 00:56:06.750
<v Amos Wenger>Thanks.

2053
00:56:06.750 --> 00:56:10.250
<v James Munns>I have like an old Sony like a 6100 that

2054
00:56:10.250 --> 00:56:11.791
I use and I use one of those--

2055
00:56:11.791 --> 00:56:12.541
It's funny.

2056
00:56:12.541 --> 00:56:13.416
Like you went down the list of the stuff

2057
00:56:13.416 --> 00:56:14.833
you probably don't want to use and I use

2058
00:56:14.833 --> 00:56:15.708
every single one of them like--

2059
00:56:15.708 --> 00:56:16.166
<v Amos Wenger>Oh, yeah.

2060
00:56:16.166 --> 00:56:17.083
<v James Munns>I use one of those little

2061
00:56:17.083 --> 00:56:19.000
USB dongles for capturing.

2062
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.666
I bought the 6100 used because you could

2063
00:56:21.666 --> 00:56:23.833
get clean HDMI output on it.

2064
00:56:23.875 --> 00:56:24.458
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah.

2065
00:56:24.458 --> 00:56:26.000
<v James Munns>And then I put it into one of those 1080p

2066
00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:27.541
dongles and--

2067
00:56:27.541 --> 00:56:28.750
[[Amos Wenger] I'm so pleased with this slide.

2068
00:56:28.791 --> 00:56:29.875
<v Amos Wenger>It's just the best.

2069
00:56:29.875 --> 00:56:30.708
<v James Munns>It's a good slide.

2070
00:56:30.708 --> 00:56:31.333
<v Amos Wenger>Right?

2071
00:56:31.333 --> 00:56:33.333
I leveled up my Google Slides game.

2072
00:56:33.333 --> 00:56:34.625
<v James Munns>It's interesting how much it goes from

2073
00:56:34.625 --> 00:56:36.416
reading is-- the one on the right side just

2074
00:56:36.416 --> 00:56:38.791
reads as 'ah yes, glasses reflection' versus

2075
00:56:38.791 --> 00:56:39.625
the one on the left.

2076
00:56:39.625 --> 00:56:40.708
You're like, "I can see a light."

2077
00:56:40.958 --> 00:56:42.250
Even though you can see a light in both

2078
00:56:42.250 --> 00:56:43.666
the one on the right just reads as

2079
00:56:43.666 --> 00:56:45.125
'generic reflections,'

2080
00:56:45.125 --> 00:56:46.500
which you don't notice.

2081
00:56:46.500 --> 00:56:47.208
And then the one on the

2082
00:56:47.208 --> 00:56:49.125
left is like 'ah, studio shooting.'

2083
00:56:49.666 --> 00:56:50.500
<v Amos Wenger>I'm really happy with that.

2084
00:56:50.500 --> 00:56:50.958
I don't know.

2085
00:56:50.958 --> 00:56:52.916
I don't know if you think it's good, but

2086
00:56:52.916 --> 00:56:54.583
I'm really happy with this quality.

2087
00:56:54.583 --> 00:56:55.416
But you know what's

2088
00:56:55.416 --> 00:56:57.333
shitty is that I have backlog.

2089
00:56:57.333 --> 00:56:58.750
So I'm going to release another couple of

2090
00:56:58.750 --> 00:56:59.875
videos that have

2091
00:56:59.875 --> 00:57:01.416
something substandard now.

2092
00:57:01.750 --> 00:57:04.416
<v Amanda Majorowicz>Oh... and then people are going to go to those

2093
00:57:04.416 --> 00:57:05.250
videos and be like, what the

2094
00:57:05.250 --> 00:57:06.625
fuck are you talking about, Amos...

2095
00:57:06.625 --> 00:57:07.208
<v Amos Wenger>I know!

2096
00:57:07.833 --> 00:57:08.666
<v James Munns>I know you got to get them out.

2097
00:57:08.666 --> 00:57:09.416
You got to get them out.

2098
00:57:09.416 --> 00:57:10.250
I meant to bring it up.

2099
00:57:10.375 --> 00:57:12.333
I had that USB cardioid

2100
00:57:12.333 --> 00:57:13.750
mic that I used for a while.

2101
00:57:13.750 --> 00:57:14.083
<v Amos Wenger>Yeah.

2102
00:57:14.083 --> 00:57:16.875
<v James Munns>The first like eight episodes of Chats

2103
00:57:16.875 --> 00:57:19.166
with James, I had the mic backwards.

2104
00:57:19.166 --> 00:57:20.875
It wasn't until I was like streaming on

2105
00:57:20.875 --> 00:57:22.458
YouTube and there's like a

2106
00:57:22.458 --> 00:57:24.166
little icon on the front of it.

2107
00:57:24.166 --> 00:57:26.458
<v Amos Wenger>James! Well, if you look at the pattern?

2108
00:57:26.458 --> 00:57:28.208
<v James Munns>There was a little icon and I was- I was

2109
00:57:28.208 --> 00:57:29.666
live streaming on YouTube.

2110
00:57:29.666 --> 00:57:30.333
I didn't know shit

2111
00:57:30.333 --> 00:57:31.125
when I bought that mic.

2112
00:57:31.125 --> 00:57:31.750
So like-- and I still

2113
00:57:31.750 --> 00:57:33.208
really don't know shit.

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But like someone on the YouTube chat was

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like, "Hey, if the icon's on the side

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facing the camera, your

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mic's probably backwards.

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And I went back and I listened to some

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old episodes and I'm like-- someone posted

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the interview with...

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what's his name... from Oxide.

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<v Amos Wenger>Oh, Bryan Cantrill?

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<v James Munns>Yeah.

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<v Amos Wenger>The founder?

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<v James Munns>So I had an episode

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talking to him: the whole audio.

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I'm like (muffled) "Yes!

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And I'm doing!" It--

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Like, it sounds like

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I'm yelling into the mic.

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<v Amos Wenger>That's amazing.

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Yes.

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<v James Munns>I don't know how-- like, now listening back

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to it, I'm like, "How did I edit that and

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not go fucking crazy?"

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And I think it must have been that I

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couldn't get my levels up right.

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And so because I had my mic backwards, I

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was just speaking loud and it was picking

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up the reflections off my monitor or

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something like that.

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I'm like, I just sound like I'm like,

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methed out the entire.

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I listened to like 10 minutes of it

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because I'm like--

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<v Amanda Majorowicz>VERY ENTHUSIASTIC.

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<v James Munns>"Oh, this will be a good callback!"

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And I'm like, "Oh no! It's so bad!"

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<v Amos Wenger>Just imagine all the

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progress I've done since 2019.

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I can't even go two videos back without

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cringing intensely

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about some aspect of it.

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And sometimes I spend so much-- I spend

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like an entire month writing,

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researching, shooting, editing, post

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producing something.

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And then I look back at

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it and like the audio's--

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If it wasn't me, I would skip immediately

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this video just because

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the audio is not acceptable.

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But it's like learning to recognize JPEG

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compression artifacts once you see them,

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you can't unsee them.

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You're ruining everything for yourself.

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<v James Munns>I talk about that a couple of times.

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There are hobbies

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that I explicitly avoid.

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Like I talk about like with wine and

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coffee and stuff like that.

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I know some basics on how to make it not

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terrible, but I don't want to learn the

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next things because I know it's

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diminishing return and it will just ruin

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mediocre coffee for me.

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You know what I mean?

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<v Amos Wenger>Like I ruined 80% of TVs for myself when

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I bought a nice little OLED one because I

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have actual deep blacks and you go to

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someone else's house and

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everything just looks gray.

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It's just... I can't.

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<v James Munns>Yeah, I got a Steam Deck OLED and that's the first I

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think OLED device that I have.

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And I'm like- Oh, okay.

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<v Amos Wenger>There you go.

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<v James Munns>I kind of get it.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I could see it when I turn it on.

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I'm like, " Oh, that looks really good.

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